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<blockquote data-quote="Lizard" data-source="post: 4316838" data-attributes="member: 1054">Again, you make the presumption all opinions are legitimate and equal, that some cannot, in fact, be dismissed out of hand. It's nicely egalitarian, but it's also wrong.If someone begins a conversation with &quot;In my opinion, 2+2=5&quot;, there's no real reason to go further. I do not consider that arrogance (though I also don't consider arrogance to be a sin). I could list many other, better, examples, but they'd veer into politics and religion which are out of place on this board.IAE, I notice a sudden leap of logic here. I didn't say the PTB weren't right to fear open gaming. If their goal is control, and it is, then open gaming IS a threat to that, and it's quite rational to fear it. I wouldn't argue otherwise. Their opinion IS valid, given their desires. If you're allergic to bee stings, you are quite correct to fear bees.Well, let's wait until we're given reasons. Then I'll tell you. At the moment, we've had 10 months of &quot;WOTC believes in open gaming!&quot;, followed by a license which says &quot;No, we don't.&quot; The actual reasoning behind the license remains entirely speculative. Since you've spent a lot of time arguing that WOTC was hurt by the OGL, I find it a little hard to accept you're now saying that they're NOT driven by a desire to prevent that harm a second time. (I disagree that they were hurt, of course, and I notice no WOTC or Hasbro representative has stepped up and publically stated &quot;We lost money due to competition from third parties&quot; -- or, if they have, I haven't seen it posted yet.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lizard, post: 4316838, member: 1054"] Again, you make the presumption all opinions are legitimate and equal, that some cannot, in fact, be dismissed out of hand. It's nicely egalitarian, but it's also wrong. If someone begins a conversation with "In my opinion, 2+2=5", there's no real reason to go further. I do not consider that arrogance (though I also don't consider arrogance to be a sin). I could list many other, better, examples, but they'd veer into politics and religion which are out of place on this board. IAE, I notice a sudden leap of logic here. I didn't say the PTB weren't right to fear open gaming. If their goal is control, and it is, then open gaming IS a threat to that, and it's quite rational to fear it. I wouldn't argue otherwise. Their opinion IS valid, given their desires. If you're allergic to bee stings, you are quite correct to fear bees. Well, let's wait until we're given reasons. Then I'll tell you. At the moment, we've had 10 months of "WOTC believes in open gaming!", followed by a license which says "No, we don't." The actual reasoning behind the license remains entirely speculative. Since you've spent a lot of time arguing that WOTC was hurt by the OGL, I find it a little hard to accept you're now saying that they're NOT driven by a desire to prevent that harm a second time. (I disagree that they were hurt, of course, and I notice no WOTC or Hasbro representative has stepped up and publically stated "We lost money due to competition from third parties" -- or, if they have, I haven't seen it posted yet.) [/QUOTE]

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