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<blockquote data-quote="Boarstorm" data-source="post: 4193793" data-attributes="member: 63913">I think I'd have the same problem with a 4E-based d20 Supers game as I do with all the 3.X Supers games -- the tracking of superhuman attributes (strength, for example) just seems... off.&nbsp; If you do it through ability scores, it breaks a hit point system very quickly.&nbsp; If you do it through a feat, it breaks my suspension of disbelief (&quot;What do you mean, I can pull a skyscraper out of the ground and throw it halfway across town, but I only get a +4 damage modifier?!&quot;).I dunno, maybe one of the later systems had an elegant way of handling it that would port (or could be adapted) to 4E play.&nbsp; I kind-of gave up pretty quickly on the concept, so I can't claim to be an expert on d20 rulesets.If there IS a way to solve that logical paradox, I'd be more than interested in pulling the spandex out of the closet again. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />In the meantime, I tend to pull out the old Marvel Super Heroes (FASERIP) whenever my Supers itch needs scratching.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Boarstorm, post: 4193793, member: 63913"] I think I'd have the same problem with a 4E-based d20 Supers game as I do with all the 3.X Supers games -- the tracking of superhuman attributes (strength, for example) just seems... off. If you do it through ability scores, it breaks a hit point system very quickly. If you do it through a feat, it breaks my suspension of disbelief ("What do you mean, I can pull a skyscraper out of the ground and throw it halfway across town, but I only get a +4 damage modifier?!"). I dunno, maybe one of the later systems had an elegant way of handling it that would port (or could be adapted) to 4E play. I kind-of gave up pretty quickly on the concept, so I can't claim to be an expert on d20 rulesets. If there IS a way to solve that logical paradox, I'd be more than interested in pulling the spandex out of the closet again. :) In the meantime, I tend to pull out the old Marvel Super Heroes (FASERIP) whenever my Supers itch needs scratching. [/QUOTE]

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