Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
The
VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX
is LIVE! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
D&D Older Editions
4e death of creative spell casting?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 3765265" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Good grief. This is a pretty bizarre attitude. Are you new to D&D or something?</p><p></p><p>I've been playing AD&D since long before there were rules for most actions. We've been making up rules on the spot for "creative" stuff long before "Hollow Earth Expedition" was even a braincell in the designer's mind.</p><p></p><p>Description and storytelling matter in MY D&D game, and they always have. I really disliked the way 3E decided to make rules for everything in extreme detail, and seemingly discourage storytelling, stunts, etc.</p><p></p><p>In 3.5E, I agree, people may be "misinterpreting" the rules when that sort of thing happens. They sure as hell weren't in 1E and 2E, which is where 90% of the stories you're relating come from! (About 3/4 of your examples are of idiocy, but the other 1/4? Cool stuff). I dunno about you, but I've never been "exploited by a pushy player" (being a pushy bastard myself), but I sure as heck have seen a cool idea from a player and been accomplice to making a cooler and more fun game.</p><p></p><p>Why arbitarily make a distinction between one RPG and the other in this regard btw? Description and creativity isn't good for D&D? Is that <em>really</em> what you're saying?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 3765265, member: 18"] Good grief. This is a pretty bizarre attitude. Are you new to D&D or something? I've been playing AD&D since long before there were rules for most actions. We've been making up rules on the spot for "creative" stuff long before "Hollow Earth Expedition" was even a braincell in the designer's mind. Description and storytelling matter in MY D&D game, and they always have. I really disliked the way 3E decided to make rules for everything in extreme detail, and seemingly discourage storytelling, stunts, etc. In 3.5E, I agree, people may be "misinterpreting" the rules when that sort of thing happens. They sure as hell weren't in 1E and 2E, which is where 90% of the stories you're relating come from! (About 3/4 of your examples are of idiocy, but the other 1/4? Cool stuff). I dunno about you, but I've never been "exploited by a pushy player" (being a pushy bastard myself), but I sure as heck have seen a cool idea from a player and been accomplice to making a cooler and more fun game. Why arbitarily make a distinction between one RPG and the other in this regard btw? Description and creativity isn't good for D&D? Is that [I]really[/I] what you're saying? [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
D&D Older Editions
4e death of creative spell casting?
Top