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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stormtalon" data-source="post: 3767516" data-attributes="member: 5541">Sigh.  Too bad my personal fave non-trad spell got all the fun tweaked outta it already in 3rd -- ye olde Tenser's Floating Disc.  Used to be, you could move it by concentration, could cast it under something and have it pop up to its normal 3' altitude -- now, all it does is follow you and it starts at 3', no matter what.Never was the sort to abuse it with green slime or that sorta thing; but it sure saved my mage's backside after a nighttime ambush.  Wall of Thorns cast on a sleeping party is a bad, bad thing.  A sneaky rogue moving in to slit caster throats is an even worse thing.  A quick check with the DM to make sure that I'd be able to get a quick first-level spell off if I took a full round to ensure I didn't poke myself on the thorns -- an absolute lifesaver.  Poor sneaky feller found himself in a bad situation, with a disc popping him up 3' (jabbing him with thorns), and then proceeding to move in a tight circle -- with him on it.  As long as I (or my players) can use utility spells in their as-described manner but for odd purposes, I'll be happy.I just wish they'd give us back our old Floating Disc....  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>