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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3867892" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>Yes, you can "get" a great deal of the Frankenstein meme-set without reading Frankenstein (for example), but the later adaptations of that meme-set can act to broaden your understanding of the original (and vice versa) if you know it.</p><p></p><p>IMHO, of course.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sith are actually big insects on Barsoom; I think Lucas might have cribbed names, though. </p><p></p><p>I recently re-read a few of the Mars books, and when reading <em>A Princess of Mars</em> I was struck (for example) by the simularity of description between the green martians on their wild thoats and the visual image of the Tusken Raiders on their banthas. Indeed, that weird admixture of ultra-science and riding animals is fairly unusual overall, before Star Wars.....Except on, for example, Barsoom.</p><p></p><p>A comparison of Star Wars to the material that went before it, of course, is beyond the scope of this post, and has filled more than one book. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I found The Dark Tower series to be very archetypal, from thousands of Westersns, through the King Arthur mythos, to a riff on H.G. Well's <em>The Time Machine</em> and takes on other classics like The Wizard of Oz and Shardik. </p><p></p><p>I haven't read China Mieville yet. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>There is a lot of good material out there, though. It might be a good idea to create a thread specifically for listing books we've enjoyed, if such a thing doesn't yet exist. I recently read a book called <em>Dragonfly</em> that was good, and I recommend looking up <em>Red Earth and Pouring Rain</em>. Sorry; I don't know the authors off the top of my head. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 3867892, member: 18280"] Yes, you can "get" a great deal of the Frankenstein meme-set without reading Frankenstein (for example), but the later adaptations of that meme-set can act to broaden your understanding of the original (and vice versa) if you know it. IMHO, of course. Sith are actually big insects on Barsoom; I think Lucas might have cribbed names, though. I recently re-read a few of the Mars books, and when reading [i]A Princess of Mars[/i] I was struck (for example) by the simularity of description between the green martians on their wild thoats and the visual image of the Tusken Raiders on their banthas. Indeed, that weird admixture of ultra-science and riding animals is fairly unusual overall, before Star Wars.....Except on, for example, Barsoom. A comparison of Star Wars to the material that went before it, of course, is beyond the scope of this post, and has filled more than one book. :lol: I found The Dark Tower series to be very archetypal, from thousands of Westersns, through the King Arthur mythos, to a riff on H.G. Well's [i]The Time Machine[/i] and takes on other classics like The Wizard of Oz and Shardik. I haven't read China Mieville yet. :( There is a lot of good material out there, though. It might be a good idea to create a thread specifically for listing books we've enjoyed, if such a thing doesn't yet exist. I recently read a book called [i]Dragonfly[/i] that was good, and I recommend looking up [i]Red Earth and Pouring Rain[/i]. Sorry; I don't know the authors off the top of my head. :( RC [/QUOTE]
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