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<blockquote data-quote="PeterWeller" data-source="post: 3883384" data-attributes="member: 55795"><p>Bram Stoker's Dracula is at its heart, a monster hunt. The monster hunt is one of the oldest tropes in fantasy, remember Beowulf. Dracula is also a supernatural monster, a monster out of fantasy, if you will. Dracula has a fantastic origin, fantastic powers, and a fantastic weakness that must be discovered for him to be defeated.</p><p></p><p>There, I just placed Bram Stoker's Dracula firmly in the fantasy genre. Are you going to now tell me that because the book is "scary" that it doesn't belong in that genre? It's core basis lies in fantasy tropes. Please explain why it isn't fantasy. Don't just type, "no it's not."</p><p></p><p>But before you do that, realize that genre is not exclusive. Bram Stoker's Dracula is also a horror novel, one of the first. Genre is more a product of how you read the story and what you look for when you read it than some concrete division of art. Look at it another way. Cormac McCarthy's <em>No Country for Old Men</em> is both a western and a crime novel. You can read it as each, and see how it develops the tropes of each. Or how about an example from the world of pop music: Run DMC's cover of "Walk This Way" is both a hip-hop song and a rock song. It can be listened as either, and it is appreciated by fans of either genre.</p><p></p><p>Now, I think I've provided a pretty decent explanation of why Bram Stoker's Dracula <em>is</em> fantasy. Please tell me why you think it isn't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PeterWeller, post: 3883384, member: 55795"] Bram Stoker's Dracula is at its heart, a monster hunt. The monster hunt is one of the oldest tropes in fantasy, remember Beowulf. Dracula is also a supernatural monster, a monster out of fantasy, if you will. Dracula has a fantastic origin, fantastic powers, and a fantastic weakness that must be discovered for him to be defeated. There, I just placed Bram Stoker's Dracula firmly in the fantasy genre. Are you going to now tell me that because the book is "scary" that it doesn't belong in that genre? It's core basis lies in fantasy tropes. Please explain why it isn't fantasy. Don't just type, "no it's not." But before you do that, realize that genre is not exclusive. Bram Stoker's Dracula is also a horror novel, one of the first. Genre is more a product of how you read the story and what you look for when you read it than some concrete division of art. Look at it another way. Cormac McCarthy's [i]No Country for Old Men[/i] is both a western and a crime novel. You can read it as each, and see how it develops the tropes of each. Or how about an example from the world of pop music: Run DMC's cover of "Walk This Way" is both a hip-hop song and a rock song. It can be listened as either, and it is appreciated by fans of either genre. Now, I think I've provided a pretty decent explanation of why Bram Stoker's Dracula [i]is[/i] fantasy. Please tell me why you think it isn't. [/QUOTE]
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