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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3886207" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>Sure. And you'd be right to expect credentials before simply accepting someone's opinion. Which is why, as I said, I'll try to transcribe some of the EoF text over the course of this week. And perhaps the next.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Excepting, of course, that bookstores don't categorize books on basis of genre alone. They often categorize on basis of how publishers solicit a book, and that is often based on how a book is thought to appeal to potential customers. Would you say that <em>Wicked</em> isn't fantasy? Yet if you wanted to purchase a copy, it is extremely likely that you'd have to go to the Literature section of most bookstores. Likewise <em>Kingdoms of Elfin</em>.</p><p></p><p>While I agree that non-experts have just as much to say about ANY topic as anyone else (and always have), I don't believe that saying so implies that all opinions are of equal value. There's a humorous exchange in The Wizard of Oz when the Tin Woodsman says that he doesn't have a brain, and Dorothy asks how he can talk then. The TW says "I don't know. But some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't they?" Which describes, IMHO, most of the Interweb, including most of my own posts. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> We all have opinions on all sorts of topics; that doesn't mean that they are informed opinions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Certainly, authors have many different opinions. However, I think if you actually talk to authors and publishers you will find that, in terms of how the genre is defined, you will discover that there is less disparity than you imagine. Publishers place books in different genres based on where they will sell; that doesn't mean that they don't recognize that a book could just as easily (and correctly) be shelved elsewhere. </p><p></p><p>I've had some sf and fantasy short stories published. Although I am by no means an expert, I have had discussions of this nature with other writers and publishers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am accepting of its authority because I have read much of it, and because I trust on the basis of both its arguments and its authorial intent. If I get the opportunity to do some real transcription of the work, you should be able to judge from that alone.</p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 3886207, member: 18280"] Sure. And you'd be right to expect credentials before simply accepting someone's opinion. Which is why, as I said, I'll try to transcribe some of the EoF text over the course of this week. And perhaps the next. Excepting, of course, that bookstores don't categorize books on basis of genre alone. They often categorize on basis of how publishers solicit a book, and that is often based on how a book is thought to appeal to potential customers. Would you say that [i]Wicked[/i] isn't fantasy? Yet if you wanted to purchase a copy, it is extremely likely that you'd have to go to the Literature section of most bookstores. Likewise [i]Kingdoms of Elfin[/i]. While I agree that non-experts have just as much to say about ANY topic as anyone else (and always have), I don't believe that saying so implies that all opinions are of equal value. There's a humorous exchange in The Wizard of Oz when the Tin Woodsman says that he doesn't have a brain, and Dorothy asks how he can talk then. The TW says "I don't know. But some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't they?" Which describes, IMHO, most of the Interweb, including most of my own posts. :lol: We all have opinions on all sorts of topics; that doesn't mean that they are informed opinions. Certainly, authors have many different opinions. However, I think if you actually talk to authors and publishers you will find that, in terms of how the genre is defined, you will discover that there is less disparity than you imagine. Publishers place books in different genres based on where they will sell; that doesn't mean that they don't recognize that a book could just as easily (and correctly) be shelved elsewhere. I've had some sf and fantasy short stories published. Although I am by no means an expert, I have had discussions of this nature with other writers and publishers. I am accepting of its authority because I have read much of it, and because I trust on the basis of both its arguments and its authorial intent. If I get the opportunity to do some real transcription of the work, you should be able to judge from that alone. RC [/QUOTE]
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