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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3887246" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Also, about authorial intent.</p><p></p><p>There's about as much textual support for Dumbledore being gay as there is for Gandalf. After all, every "clue" that supports Dumbledore being gay can be applied to Gandalf as well. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>As to author's "owning" their work. Ballocks. Complete and utter ballocks. Once a text is released, it has to stand on its own. The author can claim whatever he or she likes after the release, but, their interpretation is no more valid than anyone else's. If your interpretation is unsuported by the text, it's wrong. Full stop. If it's supported by the text, then fair enough, it's a valid interpretation. The more support you can find in the text for your interpretation, the more valid it becomes. </p><p></p><p>However, if Terry Brooks stood up tomorrow and claimed Swords of Shanarra was a mystery novel, he'd be wrong. It doesn't matter that he wrote the book, he'd still be wrong.</p><p></p><p>As far as the Encyclopedia of Fantasy goes, well, that's one interpretation. Works like Dracula can be claimed by modern fantasy, but, really, fit better in Horror. Of course, horror and fantasy are fairly close genres so, overlap is inevitable. I wouldn't put it in the modern fantasy genre, but, I can see how it would be. </p><p></p><p>But, in any case, that was never really germane to my point. My point is, and remains, that modern fantasy as a genre didn't really mature into a wholly separate genre distinct from SF until the late 70's and early 80's. The fact that so many authors had to publish their fantasy stories as SF stories, shows how minor the genre really was.</p><p></p><p>Or, to put it another way, who are the golden age fantasy authors that can rival Heinlein or Asimov in terms of numbers of titles?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3887246, member: 22779"] Also, about authorial intent. There's about as much textual support for Dumbledore being gay as there is for Gandalf. After all, every "clue" that supports Dumbledore being gay can be applied to Gandalf as well. :) As to author's "owning" their work. Ballocks. Complete and utter ballocks. Once a text is released, it has to stand on its own. The author can claim whatever he or she likes after the release, but, their interpretation is no more valid than anyone else's. If your interpretation is unsuported by the text, it's wrong. Full stop. If it's supported by the text, then fair enough, it's a valid interpretation. The more support you can find in the text for your interpretation, the more valid it becomes. However, if Terry Brooks stood up tomorrow and claimed Swords of Shanarra was a mystery novel, he'd be wrong. It doesn't matter that he wrote the book, he'd still be wrong. As far as the Encyclopedia of Fantasy goes, well, that's one interpretation. Works like Dracula can be claimed by modern fantasy, but, really, fit better in Horror. Of course, horror and fantasy are fairly close genres so, overlap is inevitable. I wouldn't put it in the modern fantasy genre, but, I can see how it would be. But, in any case, that was never really germane to my point. My point is, and remains, that modern fantasy as a genre didn't really mature into a wholly separate genre distinct from SF until the late 70's and early 80's. The fact that so many authors had to publish their fantasy stories as SF stories, shows how minor the genre really was. Or, to put it another way, who are the golden age fantasy authors that can rival Heinlein or Asimov in terms of numbers of titles? [/QUOTE]
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