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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 8412153" data-attributes="member: 59057">4e had really cool things.I already see a lot of 4e in 5e. In some parts the 4e rules were actually better. Now that 4e is 10 years away, you can restore the original rules in some parts (death saving throws in 4e were better, as they only restted after a short rest. Short rests were more paractical. Healing surges were great, especially with the second wind encounter power).Edit: dissociation for us was due to at will powers and shifting. Combat could not be resolved in natural language. It was all technical. 4e essentials did a good job of reducing dissociation when they went to base attacks mainly. But shifting remained. We didn't object martials getting some encounter powers or even dailies.</blockquote>