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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 8414626" data-attributes="member: 59057">I think in 2e we would have also wiped the floor with them at that level... So even if it is "too easy" for your tastes, it is well within the bounds of a reasonable encounter with a DnD story. 9th level PCs were top notch back then. The last level where a fighter got full hp per level, 5th level spells. Also I am not sure if 100 Archers are really a problem because in a normal setup, not all can fire at your characters, so probably those were many smaller encounters at once. (I was not at your table, but I might be wrong here. Also, if all fired at your group, I wonder how generously defended your characters were. Full plate? Shield spell? How many are damage spells did you have and how many wall spells? Even a wall of force used to divide the battlefield? So I need to ask you:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">were powerful magic items in use?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">were your PCs "optimized" or built with a generous build method?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">did your characters rely on a few, over the top spells that won their day?</li> </ul>If one of your answers is yes, then the problem might lie in the fact, that the baseline suggestions are rather made with average PCs in mind...</blockquote>