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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 8415146" data-attributes="member: 82504">I think epic could use some work in 4e too but yes in comparison to 5e they had some kick ideas about how to enable players to invest in their own story with selectable paragon paths and epic destinies,  which the DM ideally weaves into the story.  Note the idea of PPs and echoed in ED are pretty much an expansion of "Name Level" from AD&D though in 1e there was kind of no player choice presented.I think Epic Destinies could also bring on a sort of expected adversaries too.  For example in a custom ED I am creating; By choosing the Akashic Blade (Carver of History), you bring to the story enemies  tailored to you Paradoxi or Fates Defenders or whatever and open the stage for adventures in time travel.</blockquote>