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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Intrope" data-source="post: 3793763" data-attributes="member: 3591">Man, I'm rocking with this! And I get to gloat, too: I just posted a day or so ago a post that we didn't know whether Succubi as Devils was good or bad because we didn't know the context. Now we do, and they slot in as Devils perfectly (as someone upstream put it, a Carnal Demon would not seduce anything).BTW, why is everyone assuming a Devil=Law/Demon=Chaos  model here? It's pretty clear that the various planes aren't alignment mapped--The Hells and The Abyss apparently aren't even in the same 'region' of the new Cosmology! I'm going to guess here that many Devils may well be lawful--but that they aren't inherently Lawful beings (Succubi may still be chaotics, for instance). Also, just because a Demon is an annihalator, seeking destruction rather than dominion need not imply that they are dumb. Consider as Demonic: The Giger Alien. Various Lovecraftian Horrors. Lord Foul (The Covenant Chronicles). Thanos from Marvel[1] (when he was still a full-on villain). Hellmaster Phibrizzio from Slayers[2]. Parralax/Extant in DC (destroy the univers to remake it). Devil seek to rule; Demons seek to destroy (often for reasons that are insane or ineffable to everyone else). [1] His DC equivalent/source, Darkseid, is more nearly a Devil[2] The other Monsters actually act more like Devils</blockquote>