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<blockquote data-quote="Perun" data-source="post: 3795835" data-attributes="member: 6037"><p>I'm back on topic with this one (well, sort of) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I'm still ambivalent about the announced changes to the D&D multiverse (since I am a huge fan of PS and the Great Ring), but I'm also slightly cautiously optimistic about the whole thing.</p><p></p><p>I like what they're doing with devils and demons. Devils are fallen angels, spiritual creatures (I'm making assumptions based on some of the "old" D&D lore here, presuming those things won't change) from a spiritual realm (the Astral Plane, or the Astral Sea as it's now apparently called). As such they seek corruption, spiritual as well as physical.</p><p></p><p>Demons, OTOH, are corrupted elementals. They and their realm (Abyss) was created by the ultimate corruption of the building blocks of the multiverse (another assumption based on the current (old?) Inner Planes) by Tharizdun (Elder Elemental God), and thus demons seek destruction of the entire creation.</p><p></p><p>I really hope the designers include (most) of the other, unmentioned planar creatures. They've mentioned angels (and I, again, assume they're talking about 3(.5) angels/aasimon (devas, planetars, solars).</p><p></p><p>We have a hint from Mousferatu's excellent guesswork that there'll probably be "eladrin" (maybe advanced forms of the expected PC race), and I hope they toss in guardinals and archons (although it might be they're redesigning archons -- a number of archons have animal characteristics, which might lead to confusion with guardinals -- as the new angels, along with the aasimon). And it's been hinted that gelugons are actually yugoloths (IIRC), so they might be in, too (please, let them be in! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />)</p><p></p><p>And, apparently, we're getting an article on the planes and new cosmology later today, on the DDI, so there's hope they'll mention palanr inhabitants. <a href="http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?p=13904169#post13904169" target="_blank">Bart Carroll's blog</a> mentions feywild (presumably re-designed Arborea), shadowfell (Plane of Shadow), and elemental chaos (Limbo? or combination of Limbo and the elemental planes?).</p><p></p><p>Regards.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Perun, post: 3795835, member: 6037"] I'm back on topic with this one (well, sort of) ;) I'm still ambivalent about the announced changes to the D&D multiverse (since I am a huge fan of PS and the Great Ring), but I'm also slightly cautiously optimistic about the whole thing. I like what they're doing with devils and demons. Devils are fallen angels, spiritual creatures (I'm making assumptions based on some of the "old" D&D lore here, presuming those things won't change) from a spiritual realm (the Astral Plane, or the Astral Sea as it's now apparently called). As such they seek corruption, spiritual as well as physical. Demons, OTOH, are corrupted elementals. They and their realm (Abyss) was created by the ultimate corruption of the building blocks of the multiverse (another assumption based on the current (old?) Inner Planes) by Tharizdun (Elder Elemental God), and thus demons seek destruction of the entire creation. I really hope the designers include (most) of the other, unmentioned planar creatures. They've mentioned angels (and I, again, assume they're talking about 3(.5) angels/aasimon (devas, planetars, solars). We have a hint from Mousferatu's excellent guesswork that there'll probably be "eladrin" (maybe advanced forms of the expected PC race), and I hope they toss in guardinals and archons (although it might be they're redesigning archons -- a number of archons have animal characteristics, which might lead to confusion with guardinals -- as the new angels, along with the aasimon). And it's been hinted that gelugons are actually yugoloths (IIRC), so they might be in, too (please, let them be in! :)) And, apparently, we're getting an article on the planes and new cosmology later today, on the DDI, so there's hope they'll mention palanr inhabitants. [url=http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?p=13904169#post13904169]Bart Carroll's blog[/url] mentions feywild (presumably re-designed Arborea), shadowfell (Plane of Shadow), and elemental chaos (Limbo? or combination of Limbo and the elemental planes?). Regards. [/QUOTE]
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