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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ripzerai" data-source="post: 3800926" data-attributes="member: 38324">DLA never calls these "outer planes." They could, based on this book alone, just as easily be realms within the outer planes - which is indeed what the Planescape setting said they were. This in no way contradicts DLA. Zhan, the Forest Beyond the World exists. It's not a plane in itself, but it exists, and DLA and the Krynnish sages aren't wrong about that, 'cause they never said it was a plane.That doesn't matter. What Tracy Hickman says isn't official in the same way as what's actually printed. The Dragonlance setting has been linked to the Great Wheel since 1984, regardless of what Tracy Hickman says on his own time.Now, the 3e campaign setting that you  helped work on is official, but it's a marked change from the way things always were before.In some ways, the 3e cosmology directly contradicted the DA flavor text, since it lumped Zhan, the Forest Beyond the World, in with the Hidden Vale, where in 1e they were as much separate places as the Dome of Creation and the Abyss (which is to say, we didn't know if they were truly separate places or not - they could have all been separate places on the same plane, or separate places on 17 different planes, or even places that are part of the Material Plane. They could have been different planets in Krynnspace; the Dome of Creation could have been (and I assumed it was, when Spelljammer came out) the same as Krynnspace's crystal sphere.It's misleading to act as if the 3e Dragonlance cosmology is the same as the 1e one. It isn't. It's a new and simplified thing.</blockquote>

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