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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 4728966" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p><span style="color: Red">DM: You are traveling along the mountain path when you see in the distance (2d6x10 feet ahead) a red dragon on the wing.</span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue">PC Fighter: A dragon, eh, how big?</span></p><p><span style="color: Red">DM: Huge!</span></p><p><span style="color: YellowGreen">PC Wizard: HUGE! That means its "rolls Know: arcana" Young adult or higher! I just mastered second level spells! Lets Flee!</span></p><p><span style="color: Silver">PC Cleric: Agreed</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">PC Rogue: Already running.</span></p><p><span style="color: Red">DM: The Dragon rolls his spot check (rolls spot) Anyone's hide check beat a 42?</span></p><p>All PCs: NO!</p><p><span style="color: Red">DM: Ok, I rolled an 11. He see's you. Roll init.</span></p><p>[Everyone rolls init, PCs go first]</p><p><span style="color: Red">DM: Ok, whatcha doing?</span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue">Fighter: Running. In my armor, I can move 60 ft</span></p><p><span style="color: YellowGreen">Wizard: I cast invisibility and move 30 ft.</span></p><p><span style="color: Silver">Cleric: Like the Fighter, 60 ft</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Rogue: All out booking! 120 ft!</span></p><p><span style="color: Red">DM: Ok, the red dragon moves 150 ft as a move action, and then breathes an additional 50 ft cone cone. That covers everyone. Give me Reflex saves</span>.</p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue">Fighter: whew! 19!</span></p><p><span style="color: YellowGreen">Wizard: Dammit! 14</span></p><p><span style="color: Silver">Cleric: uh, 4. Can I roll an action point?</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Rogue: Woohoo! 22! With evasion!</span></p><p><span style="color: Red">DM: Sorry, the DC was 26. You each take 12d10 damage. That's "rolls" 84 damage. </span></p><p><span style="color: RoyalBlue">Fighter. Negative 50!</span></p><p><span style="color: YellowGreen">Wizard: Toast.</span></p><p><span style="color: Silver">Cleric: ...</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Rogue: I wonder what my guild is doing in WoW right now...</span></p><p></p><p>By the time the PCs saw the dragon, they were already dead. It didn't matter what they did in their armor before, or even if they ran full tilt. They were DEAD. </p><p></p><p>Moral of the story; Don't use CR 15 dragons when your PCs are 3rd level. In any edition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 4728966, member: 7635"] [COLOR="Red"]DM: You are traveling along the mountain path when you see in the distance (2d6x10 feet ahead) a red dragon on the wing.[/COLOR] [COLOR="RoyalBlue"]PC Fighter: A dragon, eh, how big?[/COLOR] [COLOR="Red"]DM: Huge![/COLOR] [COLOR="YellowGreen"]PC Wizard: HUGE! That means its "rolls Know: arcana" Young adult or higher! I just mastered second level spells! Lets Flee![/COLOR] [COLOR="Silver"]PC Cleric: Agreed[/COLOR] [COLOR="Magenta"]PC Rogue: Already running.[/COLOR] [COLOR="Red"]DM: The Dragon rolls his spot check (rolls spot) Anyone's hide check beat a 42?[/COLOR] All PCs: NO! [COLOR="Red"]DM: Ok, I rolled an 11. He see's you. Roll init.[/COLOR] [Everyone rolls init, PCs go first] [COLOR="Red"]DM: Ok, whatcha doing?[/COLOR] [COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Fighter: Running. In my armor, I can move 60 ft[/COLOR] [COLOR="YellowGreen"]Wizard: I cast invisibility and move 30 ft.[/COLOR] [COLOR="Silver"]Cleric: Like the Fighter, 60 ft[/COLOR] [COLOR="Magenta"]Rogue: All out booking! 120 ft![/COLOR] [COLOR="Red"]DM: Ok, the red dragon moves 150 ft as a move action, and then breathes an additional 50 ft cone cone. That covers everyone. Give me Reflex saves[/COLOR]. [COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Fighter: whew! 19![/COLOR] [COLOR="YellowGreen"]Wizard: Dammit! 14[/COLOR] [COLOR="Silver"]Cleric: uh, 4. Can I roll an action point?[/COLOR] [COLOR="Magenta"]Rogue: Woohoo! 22! With evasion![/COLOR] [COLOR="Red"]DM: Sorry, the DC was 26. You each take 12d10 damage. That's "rolls" 84 damage. [/COLOR] [COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Fighter. Negative 50![/COLOR] [COLOR="YellowGreen"]Wizard: Toast.[/COLOR] [COLOR="Silver"]Cleric: ...[/COLOR] [COLOR="Magenta"]Rogue: I wonder what my guild is doing in WoW right now...[/COLOR] By the time the PCs saw the dragon, they were already dead. It didn't matter what they did in their armor before, or even if they ran full tilt. They were DEAD. Moral of the story; Don't use CR 15 dragons when your PCs are 3rd level. In any edition. [/QUOTE]
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