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<blockquote data-quote="Runestar" data-source="post: 4729379" data-attributes="member: 72317"><p>Buffs are still resources expended. So it is possible for a party buffed to the gills to have a rather easy time against a dragon. But in terms of total resources spent, they may not necessarily be any better off than the party who did less buffing, but spent more resources healing afterwards.</p><p></p><p>3e dragons also had mid-power spellcasting, which should go a long way towards improving their prowess. You were easily looking at +10 to-hit in the least, as well as immunity (to cancel out their vulnerabilities) and other misc benefits. A red dragon with a admixture breath weapon could be doing 48d10 damage, at a DC which few players can hope to make. </p><p></p><p>Short fight (in terms of rounds), yes, but much more deadly and heart-stopping, IMO. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Runestar, post: 4729379, member: 72317"] Buffs are still resources expended. So it is possible for a party buffed to the gills to have a rather easy time against a dragon. But in terms of total resources spent, they may not necessarily be any better off than the party who did less buffing, but spent more resources healing afterwards. 3e dragons also had mid-power spellcasting, which should go a long way towards improving their prowess. You were easily looking at +10 to-hit in the least, as well as immunity (to cancel out their vulnerabilities) and other misc benefits. A red dragon with a admixture breath weapon could be doing 48d10 damage, at a DC which few players can hope to make. Short fight (in terms of rounds), yes, but much more deadly and heart-stopping, IMO. ;) [/QUOTE]
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