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<blockquote data-quote="Lauberfen" data-source="post: 4731253" data-attributes="member: 71418"><p>I suspect 4th is a bit less deadly, but the main thing is a much bigger gap between losing characters and getting a TPK.</p><p></p><p>In third, a 1st (or even second) level character could die instantly at the hands of an orc with a big axe. This is rarer in 4th (although I've seen it happen once to a wounded fighter- 20+ damage on a critical).</p><p></p><p>However in 4th it tends to be all or nothing- once your using heal checks as standard to keep people from dying, it's often game over, as you're no longer attacking. Hence why combat medic is actually quite good. In my experience (with a group of DM-grade players [i.e. they're all experienced DMs for many years]), a group can be at risk of death with any encounter at level +3 or above, even if you play perfectly (although this assumes a killer DM too- that's the only type we have).</p><p></p><p>So 4th has lost the random fatality, but I've seen just as many TPKS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lauberfen, post: 4731253, member: 71418"] I suspect 4th is a bit less deadly, but the main thing is a much bigger gap between losing characters and getting a TPK. In third, a 1st (or even second) level character could die instantly at the hands of an orc with a big axe. This is rarer in 4th (although I've seen it happen once to a wounded fighter- 20+ damage on a critical). However in 4th it tends to be all or nothing- once your using heal checks as standard to keep people from dying, it's often game over, as you're no longer attacking. Hence why combat medic is actually quite good. In my experience (with a group of DM-grade players [i.e. they're all experienced DMs for many years]), a group can be at risk of death with any encounter at level +3 or above, even if you play perfectly (although this assumes a killer DM too- that's the only type we have). So 4th has lost the random fatality, but I've seen just as many TPKS. [/QUOTE]
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