D&D 4E 4e - Forseeing the shape of thing to come?

[MonsterMash]

I voted for a number of things including more core classes, metamagic overhaul and dropping the Greyhawk wizards names.

I agree about a greater miniatures basis, but in some ways I don't know why I bothered as I probably wouldn't bother buying it.

 

[Zappo]

I'm positive that the game will stay D20-based. The core D20 mechanics have proven to be very solid.

Metamagic is going to be revamped; Complete Arcane is a symptom that WotC recognized metamagic as having issues.

I'd like to see Action Points. But that's just an "I'd like to see".

I don't think we'll have more classes. Every extra class makes the game more complex, but after a point, the added complexity no longer helps the game much.

Swift and Immediate actions sound like a nice way to formalize stuff that was already there.

 

[philreed]

I'm holding out for the 4.25 version - I hear that is where the real meat is gonna be!

When should that be out? Early 2007?

 

[Seeker95]

4th Edition Considerations

Before it will be called 4th Edition it will have to be *significantly different* from 3rd edition. New classes and races are cosmetic. Compiling content from the splat/sourcebooks is not "new edition" -- that would simply be a 3.5 Compiled Sourcebook.

I doubt 4th edition will depart from the "d20 higher is better" approach, but I feel 4th edition will be a radical departure from the current approach to character class construction. Perhaps rather than more classes, it will have fewer. Build your own character from four (three?) base classes: Rogue, Warrior, Mage, Priest (mage and priest could be "caster" instead). Add to this the combination of character development feats and skills that create the flavor you want.

Spellcasting is unlikely to change a great deal, but I would assume a major overhaul in metamagic. The current system is getting bloated. If we do see a big change in spells, it would likely be the introduction of spell points as core.

Feats in general may see a major overhaul or revision, bringing Bloodlines, Regionals, General, and Trees into a more unified approach. If the simplification / customization of character development occurs, the Feat system will be integrated with this.

 

[Doug McCrae]

I'd like to see the spell system unified, in much the same way d20 unified the old D&D rules. At present lots of spells have their own little subsystems.

 

[The_Gneech]

I have absolutely NO INTEREST in discussing DnD 4.0! This is rediculous!!

I'm holding out for the 4.25 version - I hear that is where the real meat is gonna be!

I have it on good authority that 4.25 completely shafted the nerf.

-The Gneech ("Or was it nerfed the shaft? I can't keep track.")

 

[diaglo]

I have it on good authority that 4.25 completely shafted the broken nerf of all its balanced fluffy crunch.

-The Gneech ("Or was it nerfed the broken shaft? I can't keep track.")

fixxed that 4 ya.

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

I predict that the 4th edition will have a greater modularity. That is, a DM could remove Attacks of Opportunity from his game and not have it impact the entire rules system so dramatically.

Either that, or AoOs will be even more simplified.


Regards,
Eric Anondson

 

[Jdvn1]

I skimmed through the replies, but didn't see anyone mention this:
The new races (goliaths and illumians are mentioned) are from the Races books, not the Complete books. I dont' think the Complete books have new races at all.

 

[Belen]

Interestingly enough, I just found out that the WOTC Delegate program does not support DnD. They support DnD Minis, but you cannot run DnD demos.