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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wraith Form" data-source="post: 4503577" data-attributes="member: 10789">I feel your pain.  Not to start a 4th Ed-bash, but I also played a rogue.  I came up with a concept LONG before I rolled dice, and there were many parts of it (*coughmulticlassingcough*) that were lackluster in 4th ed.  It was boring....all the other players laying a swath of destruction and doing video-gamey stunts and junk....meanwhile, my socially-inclined rogue just tried to keep up in battle (with minor success) and stole the good treasure.  Beat stuff up, take it's loot.  Rinse & repeat.  It felt like I was playing a game of Diablo II with my buddies, using pen & paper.  I like chillin' with my homies, but sheesh.I'm trying a uber-muchkin'ed cheesed-out swordmage next, so I can lay my own *yawn* swath of destruction upon my enemies.</blockquote>