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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 4288981" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Well, mostly I was only concerned with what they WANTED to do, not what they accomplished. I'm sure 4e has some unintended consequences of its own design scheme (the hassle of tracking conditions comes to mind) just as 3e did (what with the Jenga Tower of rules). </p><p></p><p>As for why they're not Rolemaster players...well, when a game dominates like D&D does, sometimes you don't get a lot of diversity.</p><p></p><p>I mean, a while back, a poll was run here that basically showed that people were more interested in the D&D brand than in what 4e offered mechanically. I remember that it surprised me, since ENWorld is pretty well-informed, and I would expect them to be less about the D&D name than they are about the game, but it turns out....the D&D name is very, very strong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well "CN Half Orc Druid" is a cipher for "Anything 3e did that 4e chose not to do." There are good reasons 4e doesn't choose to do it, but there were good reasons 3e DID choose to do it, and, one could argue, there are many ways to fix most of the problems without overhauling the edition to such a drastic extent (Pathfinder is seeming to argue that very thing!). </p><p></p><p>Certainly, however, there are good reasons that 4e made the choices they did. These reasons might just not be good enough for people who enjoyed whatever they did about 3e that 4e is abandoning at launch.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 4288981, member: 2067"] Well, mostly I was only concerned with what they WANTED to do, not what they accomplished. I'm sure 4e has some unintended consequences of its own design scheme (the hassle of tracking conditions comes to mind) just as 3e did (what with the Jenga Tower of rules). As for why they're not Rolemaster players...well, when a game dominates like D&D does, sometimes you don't get a lot of diversity. I mean, a while back, a poll was run here that basically showed that people were more interested in the D&D brand than in what 4e offered mechanically. I remember that it surprised me, since ENWorld is pretty well-informed, and I would expect them to be less about the D&D name than they are about the game, but it turns out....the D&D name is very, very strong. Well "CN Half Orc Druid" is a cipher for "Anything 3e did that 4e chose not to do." There are good reasons 4e doesn't choose to do it, but there were good reasons 3e DID choose to do it, and, one could argue, there are many ways to fix most of the problems without overhauling the edition to such a drastic extent (Pathfinder is seeming to argue that very thing!). Certainly, however, there are good reasons that 4e made the choices they did. These reasons might just not be good enough for people who enjoyed whatever they did about 3e that 4e is abandoning at launch. [/QUOTE]
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