D&D 4E 4e paladin build


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Okay I am just joining in a new 4e adventure level 1 and I want to be a protecting paladin. I was wondering if i can get some advice we are using method 2 for generating ability scores.

Alignment:Lawful Good

WIS:14 (16) +2 for human

Initiative: 4 (Improved initiative)
AC: 10+2(Heavy shield) + 6(Chainmail)
FORT: 10+2+1(class)+1(human)
Max HP:26
Surge Value:6

Passive insight:10+3(wisdom)+5(trained skill)
Passive perception:10+3(wisdom)

Diplomacy: 8

Healing Hands
Improved Initiative (couldn't find anything better)

Holy Strike
Bolstering strike

Radiant smite

On pain of death

Okay now keep in mind guys as of right now I'm the closest thing to a tank we have so I'm more like an avenging protecting mix.

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I think that your build treads the line between the STR based paladin and the CHA based paladin. Doing so means you are trading ability for versatility.

I went with a CHA paladin and totally ditched STR as a stat. I created a human and valued my stats in this order..


Get a decent CON score, grab some plate armor and a heavy shield, and take the toughness and durable feats and you have on your hands a guy who can soak up damage like nobodies business and get beat on all day. This tends to protect your buddies allowing them to actually kill things. I think you should make "killing things" take a back seat to "being able to be beat on for an entire encounter and not go down" to be a good protecting paladin.

Just my two cents, and also MY current character. He tends to be unconscious at the end of every battle, but that just means I did my job to the fullest. I think I calculated it the other day and at 4th level I can generate 214 hit points a day of beefiness (52 HP: 14 healing surges @ 13 points each) before I am totally tapped out.



1. Why are you wearing chainmail? You have plate proficiency automatically as a paladin regardless of your starting constitution score....I'd use it.

2.Your hit points are low for a defender....I'd take the feat toughness instead of improved initiative. It will increase your survivability.

3. With a strength of 14 I'd skip strength-based powers and focus entirely on charisma-based attacks. Check out enfeebling strike....an additional -2 to hit on top of the -2 for the mark is VERY useful for protecting your buddies.

4.Also, if you start with Str 14 and Dex 14 you will qualify for heavy blade opportunity at paragon level. That will let you use charisma-based at-wills for opportunity attacks. I suggest reshuffling your stats.

5. Check out this handbook on the wizards message board: http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1054956 for stat-allocation and feat advice.

Hope that helps.


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Hi...I also play a Human Paladin..heh.You should get one more At-Will Power and one more Class Skill as per Human Racial bonuses.Vailant Strike is really nice but is Str based (it'll come in handy when you get seriously surrounded!), while Enfeebling Strike might be kinda nice for your "protection" pally.For Feats...Action Surge (human, +3 attack when using Action Point) is REALLY nice when you want to hit with your daily or encounter power. Getting that +3 stacked with Combat Advantage and with a power bonus from the Cleric or Warlord really helps to ensure your On Pain of Death hits etc. As mentioned, Toughness is almost a given for almost ALL characters. Toughness basically gives you +1 level worth of hitpoints and survivability really helps especially at 1st level. A pally may be tough, but four or five minion hits etc. will quickly drop your tank to negative hitpoints...For my character, I also got Weapon Focus (don't ask) because I wanted that extra punch for melee...but it's not all that useful. Human Peserverance (+1 to save) comes in handy especially whenever you miss a Save by 1 (odn't forget Divine Mettle!)...but more so, when you're making "Death Saving Throws" you basically double your chances to revive!As already mentioned, why not get plate armor? With plate and heavy shield, that's a good start to becoming a decent tank. Remember, your character is not the heavy damage dealer...leave that to the rogues/rangers/and warlocks etc. And some notes...Don't forget to Divine Challenge during the game...I know it sounds really stupid to say this, but believe me, I forget to mention it during combat more often than nought. As a tank with three Lay on Hands (clarify with your DM if Healing Hands also works on your character...it says ally, but my DM made an exception), you in essence have 2x your hitpoint total independent of any other characters (3 LoH and 1 2nd Wind). This makes you TOUGH and can withstand A LOT of hits...just balance taking those hits with your LoH and 2nd Wind...makes you more indestructable than the average bear.Have fun..Fox


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For a "tank" paladin, I'd go with:

At-Will Powers:
- Bolstering Strike (defensive "self-buff")
- Enfeebling Strike (defensive "debuff")
- Valiant Strike (good for solid hits when multiple enemies are around you, which you'll want if you're "tanking")

- Piercing Smite (to mark those adjacent to you and keep attention on you)

- Paladin's Judgement (if you're a tank, you're in melee - this gives you good damage and allows you to heal someone; On Pain of Death will draw OAs on you because it's ranged.)

For feats, I agree with Sabathius42 re: Toughness and Durable. 26 hp as a "tank" is pretty low. Toughness will give you 31. I'd also make your Con score a 12 (at a minimum) so your hp will be 32 (bloodied at 16 instead of 15, your surge value becomes 8 instead of 7, and you get another surge/day on top of the Durable bonus).

When you're looking at abilities and feats, keep asking yourself: How can I best stay alive and keep those around me alive? Remember you're not a striker... you're a striked. ;)

At 2nd level, it's a toss-up between Sacred Circle - gives protection to more people - and Martyr's Blessing, which can allow you to absorb an adjacent ally's damage. I'm more a fan of Sacred Circle, personally.


I'll join the chorus in recommending Toughness over Improved Initiative. The additional hit points will be most welcome. Also, I haven't seen this in play yet, but I anticipate that having a higher rank for Bloodied will also come in handy. I've learned to live with the fact that my Paladin will always go last.I'll also recommend Valient Strike. It isn't as much a Strength based at-will as it is a situational at-will. Receiving a +2, +3, or more to hit is a nice advantage when you're surrounded by multiple opponents.For your Daily, I'd recommend Radiant Delirium. It is Cha vs Reflex, does nice Cha-based damage, has a continuing effect, and most importantly, it still does damage and has an effect even if you miss. Plus, it can act to interrupt a continuing action or be used to prevent a target from fleeing. On Pain of Death acts against Will, so it isn't great against casters.
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how do you have 13 healing surges a day? it should be 10 because your con score is only 11.
Idk how i feel about a human paladin trying to do both. pick one, then optimize it. unless your dragonborn, its really gonna be a rough time in the character career trying to do both.


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Mika, level 1
Human, Paladin|Sorcerer
Hybrid Paladin: Hybrid Paladin Reflex
Sorcerous Power: Sorcerous Power Dexterity
Hybrid Talent: Paladin Armor Proficiency
Human Power Selection: Bonus At-Will Power
Background: Born Under a Bad Sign (Born Under a Bad Sign Benefit)

Str 9, Con 13, Dex 16, Int 10, Wis 10, Cha 18.

Str 9, Con 13, Dex 16, Int 10, Wis 10, Cha 16.

AC: 20 Fort: 12 Reflex: 17 Will: 16
HP: 31 Surges: 9 Surge Value: 7

Intimidate +9, Bluff +9, Diplomacy +9, Religion +5

Acrobatics -1, Arcana, Dungeoneering, Endurance -3, Heal, History, Insight, Nature, Perception, Stealth -1, Streetwise +4, Thievery -1, Athletics -5

Human: Hybrid Talent
Level 1: Sorcerous Blade Channeling

Bonus At-Will Power: Acid Orb
Hybrid at-will 1: Virtuous Strike
Hybrid at-will 1: Burning Spray
Hybrid encounter 1: Valorous Smite
Hybrid daily 1: Majestic Halo

Plate Armor, Adventurer's Kit, Heavy Shield, Dagger

This is my Mage Knight Built its not much but it should be decent enough to be a Paladin


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Erdanus, level 11
Half-Elf, Paladin|Sorcerer, Paragon Hybrid
Hybrid Paladin: Hybrid Paladin Fortitude
Sorcerous Power: Sorcerous Power Strength
Paragon Hybrid Talent: Soul of the Sorcerer
Soul of the Sorcerer: Dragon Soul
Dragon Soul: Dragon Soul Fire
Hybrid Talent: Paladin Armor Proficiency
Arcane Implement Proficiency: Arcane Implement Proficiency (heavy blade group)
Versatile Expertise: Versatile Expertise (Heavy Blade)
Versatile Expertise: Versatile Expertise (Light Blade)
Background: Born Under a Bad Sign (Born Under a Bad Sign Benefit)

Str 19, Con 15, Dex 13, Int 9, Wis 11, Cha 21.

Str 16, Con 12, Dex 12, Int 8, Wis 10, Cha 16.

AC: 31 Fort: 22 Reflex: 19 Will: 23
HP: 84 Surges: 10 Surge Value: 21

Athletics +12, Diplomacy +17, Religion +9

Acrobatics +4, Arcana +4, Bluff +10, Dungeoneering +5, Endurance +5, Heal +5, History +4, Insight +7, Intimidate +10, Nature +5, Perception +5, Stealth +4, Streetwise +10, Thievery +4

Level 1: Hybrid Talent
Level 2: Valenar Weapon Training
Level 4: Bitter Challenge (retrained to Dual Implement Spellcaster at Level 11)
Level 6: Arcane Implement Proficiency
Level 8: Versatile Expertise
Level 10: Weapon Proficiency (Parrying dagger)
Level 11: Armor Specialization (Plate)

Dilettante: Direct the Strike
Hybrid at-will 1: Virtuous Strike
Hybrid at-will 1: Burning Spray
Paragon Hybrid: Spark Form
Hybrid encounter 1: Valorous Smite
Hybrid daily 1: Majestic Halo
Hybrid utility 2: Spatial Trip
Hybrid encounter 3: Poisonous Exhalation
Hybrid daily 5: Glacial Armor
Hybrid utility 6: Wrath of the Gods
Hybrid encounter 7: Rimestorm
Hybrid daily 9: Adamantine Echo
Hybrid utility 10: Narrow Escape

Summoned Gith Plate Armor +3, Defensive Scimitar +3, Periapt of Cascading Health +2, Rhythm Blade Parrying dagger +2, Adventurer's Kit
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This my Version of a Dragon Knight of Bahamut

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