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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jbear" data-source="post: 5430291" data-attributes="member: 75065">I think 4e is a great system. When I first began RPGs I basically made it up because I was forbidden to play D&D by my parents. I had played HeroQuest and read Pick-a Path books, and based on that I made up m own game.A few years later a guy at my school started a lunch time game which I dropped in on a few times but never really learnt the rules.Buy the end of that year me and two other friends got a game going. I still didn't want to play D&D so we put our heads together to make up a similar, less 'divine-based' game based on what we knew. We were 13 going on 14.The year after my friend borrowed his friends AD&D books and we started actually playing something similar to AD&D 2nd Ed. Even when I moved away I never lost my passion for fantasy. When I was 21 I began travelling with a circus in Italy. The kids didn't even enjoy reading books. But they sat around int he evenings listening to me tell them the story of Lord of the Rings like hungry wolves. So I decided to teach them D&D based on what I could remember the rather loose version I had played 7 years earlier. It goes without saying they loved it. And they started asking for books for birthdays and christmas presents <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />It wasn't until I settled down and began a family that I bought my first D&D books and got a proper grop going. 3.5. Shiney! Drool! I loved all the rules that were laid out to help you resolve every situation. But what i didn't like was that there were so many of them that I couldn't memorise them all. I had to stop the game all the time to look them up. I wouldn't do that now even if i was running 3.5. But that is what I have learnt after playing 4e.In the end i've come to think that the system doesn't matter. It's just a vehicle to driving forward an awesome adventure shared amongst friends. Hell, I've been playing fantasy RPGs since I was 10. I didn't even need a system to do that. Actually I all I had was the pick a path map I had drawn with a pencil and two six sided dice.For me little has changed. Except now I have the engine that i want to drive forward my adventures. And that is 4e. WotC has already provided that for me. From here on out, anything else is icing on the cake. I can't think of any reasons why I'd want to move to Pathfinder. Especially not out of spite. Or some hypocritical feeling of indignation for some imagined offense I may or may not have suffered at the hand of WotC. There was a time I wouldn't have stepped in the door of a McDonalds restaurant or drink a bottle of Coca Cola, and that had nothing to do with liking or not Big Macs or Coke. But I guess I came to think that the only way I can withdraw my support of companies whose business practice I don't like is by withdrawing myself from society completely. I have kids, so making such a decision is extreme. So I suck it up and accept my hypocrisy for what it is. Unavoidable. We all do it. Without exception. Some of us are aware. Others less so. What are you gonna do about it?</blockquote>

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