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[4E Players, mainly] Ever thought of defecting to Pathfinder?
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<blockquote data-quote="NewJeffCT" data-source="post: 5432293" data-attributes="member: 10784"><p>I like Paizo as a company and I like that they made Pathfinder backwards-compatible with 3.5E.</p><p></p><p>Additionally, about a year ago, I finished up DMing a two and a half year long 3.5E campaign that was one of those epic "save the world" campaigns. I had a big group of players (8 at the end) involved as well.</p><p></p><p>However, the only way I would ever DM Pathfinder or 3.5E again would be if I won a mega lottery & it allowed me quit my day job and be a DM on a full-time basis. </p><p></p><p>In order for me to come up with challenging & unique encounters for my 3.5E group, I was spending 20-40 hours between sessions just to prepare encounters once the game hit level 10/11 or so. While Pathfinder tweaked some things (grapple, skills) to make 3.5 better, it also added complexity to the base classes and it still looks to be a nightmare at higher levels.</p><p></p><p>Additionally, since my BBEGs had so many options at higher levels, I would <u>always</u> forget something important in game between feats, powers, racial abilities, template abilities, class/PrC abilities, spells, magic item bonuses, and other things. This was despite all of my prep work. (Not to mention tracking each PC and bad guy with 6-8-10 "buffing" spells on them and then trading Dispel Magic, Anti-Magic, back & forth, etc)</p><p></p><p>So, while I like Paizo and respect their game, I cannot go back to the days of 3.5 and their continuation with Pathfinder just for the sake of my sanity.</p><p></p><p>I will also add that I don't love 4E, but because it is so much easier to prepare encounters, it allows me a lot more time to focus on things like story, character development and role-playing. And, because I have more free time, I can even give my bad guys more personality.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NewJeffCT, post: 5432293, member: 10784"] I like Paizo as a company and I like that they made Pathfinder backwards-compatible with 3.5E. Additionally, about a year ago, I finished up DMing a two and a half year long 3.5E campaign that was one of those epic "save the world" campaigns. I had a big group of players (8 at the end) involved as well. However, the only way I would ever DM Pathfinder or 3.5E again would be if I won a mega lottery & it allowed me quit my day job and be a DM on a full-time basis. In order for me to come up with challenging & unique encounters for my 3.5E group, I was spending 20-40 hours between sessions just to prepare encounters once the game hit level 10/11 or so. While Pathfinder tweaked some things (grapple, skills) to make 3.5 better, it also added complexity to the base classes and it still looks to be a nightmare at higher levels. Additionally, since my BBEGs had so many options at higher levels, I would [U]always[/U] forget something important in game between feats, powers, racial abilities, template abilities, class/PrC abilities, spells, magic item bonuses, and other things. This was despite all of my prep work. (Not to mention tracking each PC and bad guy with 6-8-10 "buffing" spells on them and then trading Dispel Magic, Anti-Magic, back & forth, etc) So, while I like Paizo and respect their game, I cannot go back to the days of 3.5 and their continuation with Pathfinder just for the sake of my sanity. I will also add that I don't love 4E, but because it is so much easier to prepare encounters, it allows me a lot more time to focus on things like story, character development and role-playing. And, because I have more free time, I can even give my bad guys more personality. [/QUOTE]
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