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<blockquote data-quote="Nemesis Destiny" data-source="post: 5479076" data-attributes="member: 98255">Spoken like a true Player.I mean that with no malice whatsoever. I am right there with you. I'll play anything, if the story's good, the other players are friends, and the DM's fair.But that is the heart of it - the DM. That's why I can't go back to 3.x or on to PF. They haven't changed enough of the DM bits to make it work, or rather, less work. The last major D&amp;D campaign I ran was a huge, epic arc that ran from 1st right on until it was done. That was about 18th or so. By the time I got into the low teens, the game required so much prep work, that even unemployed as I was, I didn't have the time to make it work every week, week after week. The game, and hence the story, suffered because of it.We still had good games, and some good times, but I will never DM that system again*. Never.Some will say, &quot;but what about PF 2.0?!?!&quot; and to that, I say, sure, I'll give it a look, but it won't be 3.x anymore by that point, and if it still is, then it isn't worth any more than its predecessor from where I sit: behind the screen.I am not a 4e fanboy, though I like it. If my group said though, that they're abandoning it, I'd sooner go back to 2e, or previous, from a DM's perspective, or even perhaps a retro-clone. Maybe even a houseruled previous edition (perhaps throwing in some feats and Essentials-style boosts for the non-casters).Or heck, another system entirely. There are lots, and I've played some. I like some more than others. Pretty much all of them more than 3.x, again, as a DM. I don't care what I play.* E6 being a possible exception.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nemesis Destiny, post: 5479076, member: 98255"] Spoken like a true Player. I mean that with no malice whatsoever. I am right there with you. I'll play anything, if the story's good, the other players are friends, and the DM's fair. But that is the heart of it - the DM. That's why I can't go back to 3.x or on to PF. They haven't changed enough of the DM bits to make it work, or rather, less work. The last major D&D campaign I ran was a huge, epic arc that ran from 1st right on until it was done. That was about 18th or so. By the time I got into the low teens, the game required so much prep work, that even unemployed as I was, I didn't have the time to make it work every week, week after week. The game, and hence the story, suffered because of it. We still had good games, and some good times, but I will never DM that system again*. Never. Some will say, "but what about PF 2.0?!?!" and to that, I say, sure, I'll give it a look, but it won't be 3.x anymore by that point, and if it still is, then it isn't worth any more than its predecessor from where I sit: behind the screen. I am not a 4e fanboy, though I like it. If my group said though, that they're abandoning it, I'd sooner go back to 2e, or previous, from a DM's perspective, or even perhaps a retro-clone. Maybe even a houseruled previous edition (perhaps throwing in some feats and Essentials-style boosts for the non-casters). Or heck, another system entirely. There are lots, and I've played some. I like some more than others. Pretty much all of them more than 3.x, again, as a DM. I don't care what I [I]play[/I]. * E6 being a possible exception. [/QUOTE]

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