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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 8988076" data-attributes="member: 19675">We played 4Ed for a while.&nbsp; I enjoyed playing it, but had ZERO interest in running it as it existed.&nbsp; My take on it was:1) it would have been better as a non-D&amp;D FRPG or classless system as opposed to trying to shoehorn it in to D&amp;D conceptual constraints.2) I really liked the 4Ed take on the Warlock.&nbsp; IMHO, it was the best version of it.3) Our overall playstyle didn’t really change for 4Ed- we never saw the 15 minute workday. 4) Biggest complaint for us was slow combat.&nbsp; The source of that in our experience was twofold:4a) First, none of the PC abilities were as potentially inordinately powerful as some were in prior editions, so it was rare for a PC to be able to significantly shorten or simply end a combat encounter with 1-2 actions.4b)&nbsp; Second, the vast majority of buff or debuff effects were VERY short-lived.&nbsp; In prior editions, something that gave you +N Att/Dam (for example) might last several rounds or even hours or more.&nbsp; Essentially, once a PC got a modifier, they rarely had to recalibrate their combat rolls for one or more combats.&nbsp; In contrast, modifiers granted by many similar 4Ed powers might last only 1-2 rounds, or for a single attack.&nbsp; You were constantly recalculating whether you hit or missed, or how much damage you did, etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 8988076, member: 19675"] We played 4Ed for a while. I enjoyed playing it, but had ZERO interest in running it as it existed. My take on it was: 1) it would have been better as a non-D&D FRPG or classless system as opposed to trying to shoehorn it in to D&D conceptual constraints. 2) I [I]really[/I] liked the 4Ed take on the Warlock. IMHO, it was the best version of it. 3) Our overall playstyle didn’t really change for 4Ed- we never saw the 15 minute workday. 4) Biggest complaint for us was slow combat. The source of that in our experience was twofold: 4a) [B]First[/B], none of the PC abilities were as potentially inordinately powerful as some were in prior editions, so it was rare for a PC to be able to significantly shorten or simply end a combat encounter with 1-2 actions. 4b) [B]Second[/B], the vast majority of buff or debuff effects were VERY short-lived. In prior editions, something that gave you +N Att/Dam (for example) might last several rounds or even hours or more. Essentially, once a PC got a modifier, they rarely had to recalibrate their combat rolls for one or more combats. In contrast, modifiers granted by many similar 4Ed powers might last only 1-2 rounds, or for a single attack. You were constantly recalculating whether you hit or missed, or how much damage you did, etc. [/QUOTE]

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