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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 3707056" data-attributes="member: 326">Hey all! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Okay, this is a thread to talk about peoples views on 4th Edition and the Immortals Handbook. Whether or not they want products updated, revised, or simply left alone.So what do we know about 4th Edition so far. Well we know its not OGL, but that thirdparty licensees can get a license from WotC. So I would assume Mongoose would be one of those companies, and since I am affiliated with them I suspect it wouldn't be difficult to have future Immortals Handbooks 4th Edition compatible.However, I do sell my pdfs on my own (not in tandem with Mongoose) so I am not sure how that side of things will work.We don't know a lot about the system except that its going to be a lot less clumsy and less rules heavy. I've tried my best to boil epic gaming down to the core in order to simplify Epic/Immortal gaming, but even I can only go so far. So at this point I would be leaning towards embracing a new system if it really simplified a lot of things.Remember that shorter stat blocks and greater ease of building means books (especially Monster books) will get done faster and require less errata. Or alternately that books can have more monsters and gods (pound for pound) than they otherwise could. For the moment we can but speculate as to whats going to happen.But I am curious to hear peoples thoughts on the matter.Are any of you opposed to embracing 4th Edition, especially if its simpler and 'better'* mechanics?*from the presentation sounds like all the classes are going to be better balanced and more fun.It also appears core D&D will scale to 30th-level, which is fantastic news.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Also it seems Orcus will be in the Monster Manual - thats awesome news for 'epic' gamers, assuming that term still applies (unless of course its that Fiendish Codex Orcus - ouch).Obviously none of this changes Ascension or Gods & Monsters at this point. I wonder would anyone be interested in a 4th Edition Epic Bestiary: Volume One revision? What might be possible would be to update Bestiary Volume 1 and join it with Bestiary Volume 2.Another possibility could be that I do two versions of each book, a 3.5 compatible version and a 4th Edition version.Again, I'm just brainstorming out loud, so give me your views.</blockquote>

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