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<blockquote data-quote="dante58701" data-source="post: 3707752" data-attributes="member: 40336"><p>I will never buy nor support 4th edition material. I think the system is fine the way it is and any further meddling is just an attempt to milk more money out of the rich and stupid lapdogs of the WOTC franchise. I am fully against any material that isn't 3.5 or earlier. There are already thousands of books out there for 3.5 and it would be nonsensical and pointless (not to mention extremely greedy) of WOTC to make 4.0, an edition they initially denied they would ever make. 4.0 will undoubtedly not be compatible with 3.5. Which would render everyones collections of 3.0 and 3.5 material obsolete. To even claim they could be compatible would be a mistake at best and an outright lie at worst. To further complicate an already complicated game in the name of false simplicity is <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. The last thing anyone needs are a bunch of rich bastards making new books that tell us all that our current libraries are perhaps the biggest waste of money since the beginning of time. It's enough to make many gamers pull out their hair at the roots. Besides they aren't releasing this garbage until 2008. But hey, if you want to completely screw up The Immortal's Handbook...be my guest. It's ur show afterall. Just don't expect everyone to show up with money in hand for a product that's changes to conform with the corporate crap of 4.0...which will undoubtedly become 4.5, 5.0, 5.5, ect. until the popularity of purchasing reprinted crap becomes nonexistent and all diehard fans of 3.0/3.5 material become completely disillusioned with the concept of gaming as a whole. You have a fine product as it is, you just need to stop second guessing yourself based on the actions of the lemmings and drones of WOTC. While we all understand the need to appeal to consumers, you will find that most consumers will not want to buy 4.0. The vast majority of 4.0 consumers will be teenagers that weren't even alive when Gary Gygax still owned TSR. And the vast majority of them will only be interested in it for the short term and not the long haul. 4.0 will be yet another stupid fad that will be wiped clean off the earth in just short of a decade. While all the real gamers will still be playing 1st Edition, 2nd Edition, 3.0, and 3.5.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dante58701, post: 3707752, member: 40336"] I will never buy nor support 4th edition material. I think the system is fine the way it is and any further meddling is just an attempt to milk more money out of the rich and stupid lapdogs of the WOTC franchise. I am fully against any material that isn't 3.5 or earlier. There are already thousands of books out there for 3.5 and it would be nonsensical and pointless (not to mention extremely greedy) of WOTC to make 4.0, an edition they initially denied they would ever make. 4.0 will undoubtedly not be compatible with 3.5. Which would render everyones collections of 3.0 and 3.5 material obsolete. To even claim they could be compatible would be a mistake at best and an outright lie at worst. To further complicate an already complicated game in the name of false simplicity is :):):):):):):):). The last thing anyone needs are a bunch of rich bastards making new books that tell us all that our current libraries are perhaps the biggest waste of money since the beginning of time. It's enough to make many gamers pull out their hair at the roots. Besides they aren't releasing this garbage until 2008. But hey, if you want to completely screw up The Immortal's Handbook...be my guest. It's ur show afterall. Just don't expect everyone to show up with money in hand for a product that's changes to conform with the corporate crap of 4.0...which will undoubtedly become 4.5, 5.0, 5.5, ect. until the popularity of purchasing reprinted crap becomes nonexistent and all diehard fans of 3.0/3.5 material become completely disillusioned with the concept of gaming as a whole. You have a fine product as it is, you just need to stop second guessing yourself based on the actions of the lemmings and drones of WOTC. While we all understand the need to appeal to consumers, you will find that most consumers will not want to buy 4.0. The vast majority of 4.0 consumers will be teenagers that weren't even alive when Gary Gygax still owned TSR. And the vast majority of them will only be interested in it for the short term and not the long haul. 4.0 will be yet another stupid fad that will be wiped clean off the earth in just short of a decade. While all the real gamers will still be playing 1st Edition, 2nd Edition, 3.0, and 3.5. [/QUOTE]
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