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<blockquote data-quote="GQuail" data-source="post: 3713863" data-attributes="member: 30709"><p>If you hire someone, you'll make <em>less</em> money, yes... but you'll make that money <em>quicker</em>. And, to be honest, so much is already discussed and changed because of this forum that all you'd really be doing is making that sort of relationship more formal. (Even if you sometimes stare at us like we're insane for suggesting what we do! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /> )</p><p></p><p>I don't know anything about the RPG industry, but greatly suspect that up-front payment not being available would not be an issue: like I said, lots of people already toy with this project here. Even if it's something as dull as you posting copies of your hand-written notes to people and asking them to type some stuff out for you, I'm sure there's people on this board who would happy to help out in return for seeing this project move a little closer to completion - and while they may want some monetary compensation, I doubt it would be a truly epic sum. Or even Transcendental. :-(</p><p></p><p>I agree art is the most complex one, since art is a bit harder to sub out to a helpful fan: you're probably looking for a professional, and they'd be looking for more than a nominal sum. (Whereas you may be able to convince some people to transcribe stuff for a credit or a free copy, you ain't gonna get art done otherwise) But as we've discussed before, as long as you're trying to juggle every task in the book alone, it only takes one thing to mess up (like the whole Bestiary print cover stuff) and it makes all work grind to a halt. I don't know if anyone on this board could advice, say, artists who may be willing to work more to show off their skills than for real money - or if anyone here themselves is willing to contribute a picture or two.</p><p></p><p>Still, I'll agree that since this is hardly a big-money project, it's always going to be awkward finding ways to compensate people enough for them to help out. The RPG industry is hardly cash rich at the highest level; the indie PDF market, this is even more exaggerated. I knwo this is a labour of love for you - I guess you'd really need someone similarly mad for Neutronium Golems to have any chance of getting a buddy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GQuail, post: 3713863, member: 30709"] If you hire someone, you'll make [i]less[/i] money, yes... but you'll make that money [i]quicker[/i]. And, to be honest, so much is already discussed and changed because of this forum that all you'd really be doing is making that sort of relationship more formal. (Even if you sometimes stare at us like we're insane for suggesting what we do! :-) ) I don't know anything about the RPG industry, but greatly suspect that up-front payment not being available would not be an issue: like I said, lots of people already toy with this project here. Even if it's something as dull as you posting copies of your hand-written notes to people and asking them to type some stuff out for you, I'm sure there's people on this board who would happy to help out in return for seeing this project move a little closer to completion - and while they may want some monetary compensation, I doubt it would be a truly epic sum. Or even Transcendental. :-( I agree art is the most complex one, since art is a bit harder to sub out to a helpful fan: you're probably looking for a professional, and they'd be looking for more than a nominal sum. (Whereas you may be able to convince some people to transcribe stuff for a credit or a free copy, you ain't gonna get art done otherwise) But as we've discussed before, as long as you're trying to juggle every task in the book alone, it only takes one thing to mess up (like the whole Bestiary print cover stuff) and it makes all work grind to a halt. I don't know if anyone on this board could advice, say, artists who may be willing to work more to show off their skills than for real money - or if anyone here themselves is willing to contribute a picture or two. Still, I'll agree that since this is hardly a big-money project, it's always going to be awkward finding ways to compensate people enough for them to help out. The RPG industry is hardly cash rich at the highest level; the indie PDF market, this is even more exaggerated. I knwo this is a labour of love for you - I guess you'd really need someone similarly mad for Neutronium Golems to have any chance of getting a buddy. [/QUOTE]
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