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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 3714812" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>Hey U_K, I've skimmed over the thread, and it's good to see that you're keeping so positive in the face of such daunting news (and in the face of where the news is still silent).</p><p></p><p>I haven't checked out the WotC forums where they're talking about 4E and the OGL, but I was at the Gen Con meeting where Scott Rouse and Bill Slavicsek were asking people what they thought WotC should do for the d20 License. Many representatives from the d20 industry were there, including Erik Mona, Chris Pramas, Gareth Skarka, some guy from Mongoose Publishing, and others.</p><p></p><p>The gist of the discussion was WotC wanting the new d20 License (which'll also have a new logo) to have some assurance of quality, which basically means finding a way to stop companies from putting out crappy d20 products (as opposed to purely OGL products, which they acknowledged that can't stop).</p><p></p><p>WotC basically said that they can't create any sort of in-house panel that'd review/approve products for the d20 logo, so they asked for other ideas. Several were discussed, including:</p><p></p><p><strong>Charge a fee</strong>. This idea has publishers paying a premium for the right to use the d20 License with their products. It'd only last for a limited time (e.g. 2-3 years) before it'd have to be purchased again.</p><p></p><p><strong>Eliminate the d20 License</strong>. This was surprisingly not dismissed outright, and the WotC guys seemed to actually consider it. Basically, this has them not releasing a new d20 STL at all, and instead letting the entire market operate OGL.</p><p></p><p><strong>Continue as-is</strong>. The premise here is that the market is smarter, and smaller, than it was back in 2000, and that there's no need for any sort of regulation (and that regulation isn't feasible anyway), so things should just stay as they are.</p><p></p><p><strong>Create a regulatory body</strong>. I didn't like this idea much, but unfortunately several of the larger publishers seemed to be quite receptive to it. This idea was basically that WotC grants the d20 License to 10-12 of the largest d20 publishers only. These publishers are then empowered to grant the license to other companies. The idea here is that this'd lead smaller companies to imprint with larger ones, and larger companies wouldn't put out smaller materials that were poor. Personally, I found this to be very unfair, as it'd make the OGL-only community into a ghetto (e.g. "If your OGL product's so great, why hasn't another company made it d20?"), and would strengthen the hand of major companies that were imprinting for smaller ones, letting them negotiate from an even more superior position.</p><p></p><p>What will actually happen is still up in the air at this point. The guys from WotC said they wanted to have a policy, and that they'd let the publishers know, but the end of this year or the beginning of next year. </p><p></p><p>Ahem. That said, I'm still looking forward to the rest of the IH, regardless of edition! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 3714812, member: 8461"] Hey U_K, I've skimmed over the thread, and it's good to see that you're keeping so positive in the face of such daunting news (and in the face of where the news is still silent). I haven't checked out the WotC forums where they're talking about 4E and the OGL, but I was at the Gen Con meeting where Scott Rouse and Bill Slavicsek were asking people what they thought WotC should do for the d20 License. Many representatives from the d20 industry were there, including Erik Mona, Chris Pramas, Gareth Skarka, some guy from Mongoose Publishing, and others. The gist of the discussion was WotC wanting the new d20 License (which'll also have a new logo) to have some assurance of quality, which basically means finding a way to stop companies from putting out crappy d20 products (as opposed to purely OGL products, which they acknowledged that can't stop). WotC basically said that they can't create any sort of in-house panel that'd review/approve products for the d20 logo, so they asked for other ideas. Several were discussed, including: [b]Charge a fee[/b]. This idea has publishers paying a premium for the right to use the d20 License with their products. It'd only last for a limited time (e.g. 2-3 years) before it'd have to be purchased again. [b]Eliminate the d20 License[/b]. This was surprisingly not dismissed outright, and the WotC guys seemed to actually consider it. Basically, this has them not releasing a new d20 STL at all, and instead letting the entire market operate OGL. [b]Continue as-is[/b]. The premise here is that the market is smarter, and smaller, than it was back in 2000, and that there's no need for any sort of regulation (and that regulation isn't feasible anyway), so things should just stay as they are. [b]Create a regulatory body[/b]. I didn't like this idea much, but unfortunately several of the larger publishers seemed to be quite receptive to it. This idea was basically that WotC grants the d20 License to 10-12 of the largest d20 publishers only. These publishers are then empowered to grant the license to other companies. The idea here is that this'd lead smaller companies to imprint with larger ones, and larger companies wouldn't put out smaller materials that were poor. Personally, I found this to be very unfair, as it'd make the OGL-only community into a ghetto (e.g. "If your OGL product's so great, why hasn't another company made it d20?"), and would strengthen the hand of major companies that were imprinting for smaller ones, letting them negotiate from an even more superior position. What will actually happen is still up in the air at this point. The guys from WotC said they wanted to have a policy, and that they'd let the publishers know, but the end of this year or the beginning of next year. Ahem. That said, I'm still looking forward to the rest of the IH, regardless of edition! :) [/QUOTE]
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