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<blockquote data-quote="jedrious" data-source="post: 3763794" data-attributes="member: 53663">Talents are similar to feat trees, except it like, let's call them variable class features, they are broken up into groups with generally 2-4 groups per class, i.e. the Soldier class has the Armor Specialist talent tree 5 talents that all build upon being beter in armor, the Brawler talent tree 5 talents making you better in melee, the Commando talent tree 7 talents all dealing with group tactics, and the Weapon Specialist talent tree 3 talents dealing with being better with a specific weaponalso avalable to Force Sensitives (and more toward what I'm discussing) are 4 special talent trees the Alter, Control, Sense and Dark Side trees each dealing with different aspects of using the force, in addition members of specific force traditions(presented in the book are Dathomiri and Jensari) with unique talents exclusive to themanother thing presented are things stronger than talents avalable to different prestige classes; Force Techniques avalable to the Force Adept, Jedi Knight and Sith Apprentice prcs are similar to talents except slightly more powerful, and Force Secrets avalable to the Force Disciple, Jedi Master and Sith Lord prcs modify force powers in fundamentaly powerful ways, the Knight level prcs get a technique every even level while like all classes get a talent every odd level(only 1 prc in the book breaks that convention), while the Master level prcs get a secret at every level past first while still gaining a talent every odd levelthe exclusive talents ala the force traditions could be adapted for the portfolios while the techniques adapted for Cosmic abilities and the secrets adapted for Trancendental abilities and another tier developed for OmnificThe idea I've had is combining the different sources of divinity for each tier with the idea of each being different classesHave the Ascended continue gaining actual Class levels using experience to determine their level, portfolio powers are available to choose instead of class talentsLevels in the Immortal class achieved through gaining Quintessence points with a class progression similar to:Immortal[CODE]Level&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Divine Rank&nbsp; &nbsp; Special1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Disciple Traits, Divine Ability, Forge Artifacts, Portfolio Weaknesses2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Prophet Traits, Divine Ability3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Hero Deity Traits, Divine Ability4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Quasi Deity Traits, Divine Ability5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Divine Ability6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Demigod Traits, Divine Ability7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Divine Ability8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Lesser Deity Traits, Divine Ability9&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 9&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Divine Ability10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Divine Ability11&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 11&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Divine Ability12&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 12&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Intermediate Traits, Divine Ability13&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 13&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Divine Ability14&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 14&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Divine Ability15&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 15&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Divine Ability16&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 16&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Greater Deity Traits, Divine Ability17&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 17&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Overgod Ascension, Divine Ability+1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +1 Divine Ability[/CODE]Overgod Ascension: You are now capable of earning Existentiance Points and earn levels in the Sidereal class.Sidereal[CODE]Level&nbsp; &nbsp; Cosmic Rank&nbsp;&nbsp; Special1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Elder One Traits, Cosmic Ability, Grow Layer2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Old One Traits, Cosmic Ability, Absorb Plane3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; First One Traits, Cosmic Ability, Dominate Dimension4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Dimensional Trancendance, Cosmic Ability+1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +1 Cosmic Ability[/CODE]Cosmic Rank: as Divine Rank except bonus is five times Cosmic RankDimensional Trancendance: You are now capable of earning Bosonance Points and earn levels in the Eternal class.Eternal[CODE]Level&nbsp;&nbsp; Trancendance Rank&nbsp; &nbsp; Special1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Demiurge Stage 1 Traits, Trancendental Ability2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Demiurge Stage 2 Traits, Trancendental Ability3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Demiurge Stage 3 Traits, Trancendental Ability4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Universal Apotheosis, Trancendental Ability+1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +1 Trancendental Ability[/Code]Trancendance Rank: as Divine Rank except the bonus is ten times Trancendance Rank.Universl Apotheosis: You are now capable of earning Ontologence Points and earn levels in the Omneity Lord class.Omneity Lord[CODE]Level&nbsp; Omnific Rank&nbsp; Special1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Time Lord Traits, Omnific Ability, Embody Universe+1&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +1 Omnific Ability, +1 Universe[/CODE]Omnific Rank: as Divine Rank except the bonus is 25 times Omnific Rank.feel free to use these classes in the 4e adaptation{Notes}Bosonance is derived from Bosonic in string theory representing the upper extent in how many dimensions we believe there areOntologence is derived from Ontology the study of existence and the basis for metaphysics{/Notes}</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jedrious, post: 3763794, member: 53663"] Talents are similar to feat trees, except it like, let's call them variable class features, they are broken up into groups with generally 2-4 groups per class, i.e. the Soldier class has the Armor Specialist talent tree 5 talents that all build upon being beter in armor, the Brawler talent tree 5 talents making you better in melee, the Commando talent tree 7 talents all dealing with group tactics, and the Weapon Specialist talent tree 3 talents dealing with being better with a specific weapon also avalable to Force Sensitives (and more toward what I'm discussing) are 4 special talent trees the Alter, Control, Sense and Dark Side trees each dealing with different aspects of using the force, in addition members of specific force traditions(presented in the book are Dathomiri and Jensari) with unique talents exclusive to them another thing presented are things stronger than talents avalable to different prestige classes; Force Techniques avalable to the Force Adept, Jedi Knight and Sith Apprentice prcs are similar to talents except slightly more powerful, and Force Secrets avalable to the Force Disciple, Jedi Master and Sith Lord prcs modify force powers in fundamentaly powerful ways, the Knight level prcs get a technique every even level while like all classes get a talent every odd level(only 1 prc in the book breaks that convention), while the Master level prcs get a secret at every level past first while still gaining a talent every odd level the exclusive talents ala the force traditions could be adapted for the portfolios while the techniques adapted for Cosmic abilities and the secrets adapted for Trancendental abilities and another tier developed for Omnific The idea I've had is combining the different sources of divinity for each tier with the idea of each being different classes Have the Ascended continue gaining actual Class levels using experience to determine their level, portfolio powers are available to choose instead of class talents Levels in the Immortal class achieved through gaining Quintessence points with a class progression similar to: Immortal [CODE] Level Divine Rank Special 1 1 Disciple Traits, Divine Ability, Forge Artifacts, Portfolio Weaknesses 2 2 Prophet Traits, Divine Ability 3 3 Hero Deity Traits, Divine Ability 4 4 Quasi Deity Traits, Divine Ability 5 5 Divine Ability 6 6 Demigod Traits, Divine Ability 7 7 Divine Ability 8 8 Lesser Deity Traits, Divine Ability 9 9 Divine Ability 10 10 Divine Ability 11 11 Divine Ability 12 12 Intermediate Traits, Divine Ability 13 13 Divine Ability 14 14 Divine Ability 15 15 Divine Ability 16 16 Greater Deity Traits, Divine Ability 17 17 Overgod Ascension, Divine Ability +1 +1 +1 Divine Ability [/CODE] Overgod Ascension: You are now capable of earning Existentiance Points and earn levels in the Sidereal class. Sidereal [CODE] Level Cosmic Rank Special 1 1 Elder One Traits, Cosmic Ability, Grow Layer 2 2 Old One Traits, Cosmic Ability, Absorb Plane 3 3 First One Traits, Cosmic Ability, Dominate Dimension 4 4 Dimensional Trancendance, Cosmic Ability +1 +1 +1 Cosmic Ability [/CODE] Cosmic Rank: as Divine Rank except bonus is five times Cosmic Rank Dimensional Trancendance: You are now capable of earning Bosonance Points and earn levels in the Eternal class. Eternal [CODE] Level Trancendance Rank Special 1 1 Demiurge Stage 1 Traits, Trancendental Ability 2 2 Demiurge Stage 2 Traits, Trancendental Ability 3 3 Demiurge Stage 3 Traits, Trancendental Ability 4 4 Universal Apotheosis, Trancendental Ability +1 +1 +1 Trancendental Ability [/Code] Trancendance Rank: as Divine Rank except the bonus is ten times Trancendance Rank. Universl Apotheosis: You are now capable of earning Ontologence Points and earn levels in the Omneity Lord class. Omneity Lord [CODE] Level Omnific Rank Special 1 1 Time Lord Traits, Omnific Ability, Embody Universe +1 +1 +1 Omnific Ability, +1 Universe [/CODE] Omnific Rank: as Divine Rank except the bonus is 25 times Omnific Rank. feel free to use these classes in the 4e adaptation {Notes} Bosonance is derived from Bosonic in string theory representing the upper extent in how many dimensions we believe there are Ontologence is derived from Ontology the study of existence and the basis for metaphysics {/Notes} [/QUOTE]

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