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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 3814164" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Howdy! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But from the perspective of the DM, choosing 30 (or whatever) feats for each NPC <strong>does </strong> take long. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How do you know that, we haven't worked out the effective CR/Level disparity yet.</p><p></p><p>Note that in the Savage Tide adventure Demogorgon is reduced in power by certain events happening around him set in motion by the PCs. Why couldn't this happen elsewhere?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So don't play in a closed cosmology. Don't choose that portfolio. Do PCs start crying because Mystra is the Goddess of Magic and not them?</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>There needs to be at least some threat to constitute physical interaction.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So were the mortal heroes of the Avatar trilogy all 90th (or whatever) level then?</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>True but it doesn't mean individuals cannot defeat more powerful beings. Theres no logical reason why some lesser deities should be more powerful than greater deities.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly. So then ask yourself are all the 3E abominations equally powerful. Then ask yourself is the quasi-deity power attributed to them a necessary part of their make-up.</p><p></p><p>The answer to both is no, therefore why would it be yes in 4E?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Less man hours of thought perhaps, but do we have all the worlds top minds on this immortal 4E predicament? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well theres always 6th Edition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 3814164, member: 326"] Howdy! :) But from the perspective of the DM, choosing 30 (or whatever) feats for each NPC [B]does [/B] take long. How do you know that, we haven't worked out the effective CR/Level disparity yet. Note that in the Savage Tide adventure Demogorgon is reduced in power by certain events happening around him set in motion by the PCs. Why couldn't this happen elsewhere? So don't play in a closed cosmology. Don't choose that portfolio. Do PCs start crying because Mystra is the Goddess of Magic and not them? There needs to be at least some threat to constitute physical interaction. So were the mortal heroes of the Avatar trilogy all 90th (or whatever) level then? True but it doesn't mean individuals cannot defeat more powerful beings. Theres no logical reason why some lesser deities should be more powerful than greater deities. Exactly. So then ask yourself are all the 3E abominations equally powerful. Then ask yourself is the quasi-deity power attributed to them a necessary part of their make-up. The answer to both is no, therefore why would it be yes in 4E? Less man hours of thought perhaps, but do we have all the worlds top minds on this immortal 4E predicament? Well theres always 6th Edition. [/QUOTE]
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