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<blockquote data-quote="dante58701" data-source="post: 4018021" data-attributes="member: 40336"><p>Average Gamer - "Look it's a fat 3.5 imp!!!"</p><p></p><p>What's wrong with it? If you have to ask...</p><p></p><p>EVERYTHING!!! There is nothing, absolutely nothing about this horror of an atrocity that I would ever recommend to anyone.</p><p></p><p>They turned bloated 3.5 Imp into a Pit Fiend. It's sick, sick, sick. Neutered doesn't even begin to cover this "thing", although it is the best descriptor I have heard yet.</p><p></p><p>And then we have the matter of action points...</p><p></p><p>Action Points are a needless, pointless thing that should never have been thought of. If anyone brings actions points to any gaming table I'm at, I will dump the cheese puffs on their head and pour out the rootbeer all over them for being so insane.</p><p></p><p>Both myself and all DMs I've dealt with over the years have specifically banned actions points. They are far to reminiscent of counter tokens for MAGIC THE GATHERING...which incidentally has led up to this MINIATURES rendition of what WOTC now calls DUNGEONS & DRAGONS.</p><p></p><p>I'm sure I'm speaking for over 90% of the traditional gaming population when I say the following.</p><p></p><p>A PIT FIEND IS NOT A PIT FIEND JUST BECAUSE YOU LABEL IT A PIT FIEND!!!</p><p></p><p>This thing is akin to an Imp with overinflated Hit Dice. It has none of the abilities that Pit Fiends are supposed to possess. It doesn't even look like a Pit Fiend.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dante58701, post: 4018021, member: 40336"] Average Gamer - "Look it's a fat 3.5 imp!!!" What's wrong with it? If you have to ask... EVERYTHING!!! There is nothing, absolutely nothing about this horror of an atrocity that I would ever recommend to anyone. They turned bloated 3.5 Imp into a Pit Fiend. It's sick, sick, sick. Neutered doesn't even begin to cover this "thing", although it is the best descriptor I have heard yet. And then we have the matter of action points... Action Points are a needless, pointless thing that should never have been thought of. If anyone brings actions points to any gaming table I'm at, I will dump the cheese puffs on their head and pour out the rootbeer all over them for being so insane. Both myself and all DMs I've dealt with over the years have specifically banned actions points. They are far to reminiscent of counter tokens for MAGIC THE GATHERING...which incidentally has led up to this MINIATURES rendition of what WOTC now calls DUNGEONS & DRAGONS. I'm sure I'm speaking for over 90% of the traditional gaming population when I say the following. A PIT FIEND IS NOT A PIT FIEND JUST BECAUSE YOU LABEL IT A PIT FIEND!!! This thing is akin to an Imp with overinflated Hit Dice. It has none of the abilities that Pit Fiends are supposed to possess. It doesn't even look like a Pit Fiend. [/QUOTE]
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