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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Khuxan" data-source="post: 4018133" data-attributes="member: 38801">I imagine a pit fiend could use an unarmed strike just like a human. But I agree, it would be nice to know what damage its claws did if - say - the pit fiend was disarmed or its mace sundered. In 3E, the fourth layer of Hell, Phlegethos, does 3d10 points of fire damage each round - which means the pit fiend can never be damaged by the fires of Hell. It seems reasonable that something hotter than Hell - like the interior of a star - could do enough damage to harm a pit fiend.The explosion damages other nearby creatures, so the minions can be used as bombs.The create undead spell-like ability. The point I was making is there are more relevant abilities a pit fiend can and should have than create undead.2 claws, a bite, 2 wings and a tail attack meant a lot of dice rolling in one round. Iterative attacks have been removed for characters, so it makes sense that pit fiends should also lose some attacks. I agree a bite or a claw would be a nice addition for an individual pit fiend, but a mace would be at least as devastating. I don't understand what you mean by an "alternative attack", but the sting is not a waste of an attack because you can attack with both mace and sting as a standard action.Any idiot with a weapon who can a) hit AC 44 with a -2 attack penalty and b) withstand the fire damage. Even then, the damage will be laughable for a creature with 350 hit points.The Pit of Phlegethos does 3d10 damage per round in 3e, possibly less in 4e. The pit fiend has fire resistance 30, meaning it is impervious to the fires of Hell.There are no rules for limbs being hacked off, so being able to grow them back really doesn't matter. Plus, it doesn't allow for the cool flavour of a pit fiend with a vendetta against the paladin who lopped off his arm or plucked out his eye.They have high enough defences and good enough saving throws to be able to resist said "nightmarish horrors".Devil chills are not a plague. They do not spread from victim to victim. Also, what kind of character CAN survive the "devastating" power of a pit fiend's attacks but not make a DC 14 Fortitude save? Especially since a 20th-level character will have no trouble finding a remove disease spell or just laughing off 1d4 Strength damage.A pit fiend is cloaked in flames, commands the legions of Hell, has devastating natural attacks and can poison people, not to mention is nigh impervious to damage. That is surely enough to "keep minions in line". As for "plotting horror", 4E gives the DM the power to cook up whatever rituals allow a pit fiend to plot horror.Summoning a pit fiend should require something more than a straw hut. Also, the aura doesn't affect allies. Also, the aura doesn't affect the terrain.Having more hit points does indeed mean you are more powerful than if you have fewer hit points.I don't understand.The minions explode, causing damage to nearby enemies. They can be destroyed when they near death - so it is a benefit. It sure would be, if it were possible to Quicken greater teleport, which it is not.I'm not impressed by it, but it's just a sketch and some bad sketches turn out to be very good pictures.</blockquote>

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