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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 4236790" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hey there matey! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I haven't really thought much about 4E multiclassing directly, though perhaps indirectly I suppose (see below). Though its possible you are talking more of the absence (or dimunition) of it.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Two things, firstly, there is simply no other way of doing it. Its as simple as that. </p><p></p><p>You can't have a full 20 level Portfolio for each role. Its simply far too much work, and a waste of time and space since so many of the powers will be retreads anyway. If you only match one portfolio to each role, then you limit who can take what portfolio in a way that undoes the mythology. A 'Loki' PC would be a Striker (as would a 'Hastsezini' PC), while an 'Agni' PC would be a defender (as would a 'Girru' PC). While a Brigit PC would fill more of a leader role. All have the fire portfolio. Yopu have to cater to them all, yet you cannot detail a full 20-level Portfolio run it just won't work.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, I think you have to remember that deities should be more versatile, and in addition the farther 'into' immortality you go, the less relevance your mortal life should have.</p><p></p><p>In 4th Edition, multi-classing will be far less prevailant than previous editions, which means that immortals will probably have a single class that best covers them. The possibility of more versatility (and remember I am not forcing the issue, simply allowing it - much like multi-classing in a way I suppose) I think suits deities.</p><p></p><p>Loki may still maintain his Striker role because he may have the Trickery, Fire and Chaos portfolios where he choose the Striker based powers for each.</p><p></p><p>Whereas Agni may have chosen two Fire Portfolios (Fire twice: Defender and Controller, in tandem with Thunder: Defender).</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Yes and no. I can vary the damage/effect of certain powers depending upon the level its chosen.</p><p></p><p>For instance, the Rogue gets sneak attack of 2d6 at 1st-level, but at 11th-level it increases to 3d6, while at 21st level it increases to 5d6.</p><p></p><p>There are two ways of doing this for portfolios.</p><p></p><p>1. The power I take first scales upwards.</p><p></p><p>Lets say Agni takes the Fire defender powers first, then the Fire Controller powers second. The defender powers will scale to the second strata of power (just like Sneak Attack at 11th-level).</p><p></p><p>2. The powers scale depending on when you take them, so the powers you take between 46-50 would be more powerful than those chosen at 31-35.</p><p></p><p>Personally I favour Option #1</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>See above.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The more I think about it, the more this seems not only the way to go, but the only way to go.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 4236790, member: 326"] Hey there matey! :) I haven't really thought much about 4E multiclassing directly, though perhaps indirectly I suppose (see below). Though its possible you are talking more of the absence (or dimunition) of it. Two things, firstly, there is simply no other way of doing it. Its as simple as that. You can't have a full 20 level Portfolio for each role. Its simply far too much work, and a waste of time and space since so many of the powers will be retreads anyway. If you only match one portfolio to each role, then you limit who can take what portfolio in a way that undoes the mythology. A 'Loki' PC would be a Striker (as would a 'Hastsezini' PC), while an 'Agni' PC would be a defender (as would a 'Girru' PC). While a Brigit PC would fill more of a leader role. All have the fire portfolio. Yopu have to cater to them all, yet you cannot detail a full 20-level Portfolio run it just won't work. Secondly, I think you have to remember that deities should be more versatile, and in addition the farther 'into' immortality you go, the less relevance your mortal life should have. In 4th Edition, multi-classing will be far less prevailant than previous editions, which means that immortals will probably have a single class that best covers them. The possibility of more versatility (and remember I am not forcing the issue, simply allowing it - much like multi-classing in a way I suppose) I think suits deities. Loki may still maintain his Striker role because he may have the Trickery, Fire and Chaos portfolios where he choose the Striker based powers for each. Whereas Agni may have chosen two Fire Portfolios (Fire twice: Defender and Controller, in tandem with Thunder: Defender). Yes and no. I can vary the damage/effect of certain powers depending upon the level its chosen. For instance, the Rogue gets sneak attack of 2d6 at 1st-level, but at 11th-level it increases to 3d6, while at 21st level it increases to 5d6. There are two ways of doing this for portfolios. 1. The power I take first scales upwards. Lets say Agni takes the Fire defender powers first, then the Fire Controller powers second. The defender powers will scale to the second strata of power (just like Sneak Attack at 11th-level). 2. The powers scale depending on when you take them, so the powers you take between 46-50 would be more powerful than those chosen at 31-35. Personally I favour Option #1 See above. The more I think about it, the more this seems not only the way to go, but the only way to go. [/QUOTE]
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