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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 4251540" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hey Fieari mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh for goodness sake...not you too! </p><p></p><p>Congrats! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As long as you keep that sort of thing to deities with the relevant portfolios I think it shouldn't be a problem.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Cool. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They seem (from what little I know) very utilitarian rather than OMGZ kewl. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Looking at the dwarf sample 30th-level Fighter, he seems virtually impossible to kill (within a party structure) for even someone like Orcus.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My current plans, and remember I haven't even seen the books yet so its not set in stone is for Class levels to stop at 30th and for Portfolio 'Levels' to begin.</p><p></p><p>eg. A 42nd-level Immortal might be a 30th-level Fighter with 5 levels of the Fire Portfolio and 7 Levels of the War Portfolio. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Remember that all those mentioned are full Immortals (levels 41-50) who would all have between 3-4 potential portfolios (Portfolios exist in 5 Level 'chunks').</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>At Level 31 you will only have 1 Level of a single portfolio.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Bane could be a 48th-level Immortal; a Level 30 Warlord with 18 Levels of the War Portfolio.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>While a 30-level Immortal Progression, 30-level Eternal progression seems neat and tidy, I don't see any benefit to it. I think a 20-level Immortal progression followed by a 10-level Primordial progression is the way to go.</p><p></p><p>After that there'll be Eternals, but I am not sure if I'll support 61st-level+ PC play. Simply because there'll be no monsters left to fight, or at least, not enough to make it worthwhile.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Certainly there'll be some synergy with mortal classes, but I really think the higher you go the more distance you'll put between the character and the class powers.</p><p></p><p>I mean if we look at a Level 10 character and a Level 30 character, they don't have any of the same Encounter or Daily powers and they don't have any of the same Magic Items. So we can't assume that a Level 50 immortal will have any of the same powers/items that a Level 30 character has.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 4251540, member: 326"] Hey Fieari mate! :) Oh for goodness sake...not you too! Congrats! :D As long as you keep that sort of thing to deities with the relevant portfolios I think it shouldn't be a problem. Cool. :cool: They seem (from what little I know) very utilitarian rather than OMGZ kewl. :D Looking at the dwarf sample 30th-level Fighter, he seems virtually impossible to kill (within a party structure) for even someone like Orcus. My current plans, and remember I haven't even seen the books yet so its not set in stone is for Class levels to stop at 30th and for Portfolio 'Levels' to begin. eg. A 42nd-level Immortal might be a 30th-level Fighter with 5 levels of the Fire Portfolio and 7 Levels of the War Portfolio. Remember that all those mentioned are full Immortals (levels 41-50) who would all have between 3-4 potential portfolios (Portfolios exist in 5 Level 'chunks'). At Level 31 you will only have 1 Level of a single portfolio. Bane could be a 48th-level Immortal; a Level 30 Warlord with 18 Levels of the War Portfolio. While a 30-level Immortal Progression, 30-level Eternal progression seems neat and tidy, I don't see any benefit to it. I think a 20-level Immortal progression followed by a 10-level Primordial progression is the way to go. After that there'll be Eternals, but I am not sure if I'll support 61st-level+ PC play. Simply because there'll be no monsters left to fight, or at least, not enough to make it worthwhile. Certainly there'll be some synergy with mortal classes, but I really think the higher you go the more distance you'll put between the character and the class powers. I mean if we look at a Level 10 character and a Level 30 character, they don't have any of the same Encounter or Daily powers and they don't have any of the same Magic Items. So we can't assume that a Level 50 immortal will have any of the same powers/items that a Level 30 character has. [/QUOTE]
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