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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 4276427" data-attributes="member: 326">Hey there! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Okay. After wrestling with the books last night it appears that instead of 13/16 + 1/2 level for the main stats that, for epic level monsters anyway, something akin to...19 + 1/2 level = Best score16 + 1/2 level = Second best score13 + 1/2 level = Third best score...works best.I think if you wanted to mix and match you could have3 Ability Scores = 16 + 1/2 level(other three 10 + 1/2 level or less)or even...6 Ability Scores = 13 + 1/2 levelExample of first method:Orcus: L33 (Top 3 Ability Scores)19 + 16 = 3516 + 16 = 3213 + 16 = 29 There are two (epic) monsters in the book that notably break this, the Tarrasque and the Godforged Colossus.Frankly, I am not happy with the Tarrasque. Even going by their own monster creation rules in the DMG it should be dealing 4d8+12 instead of 1d12+16. I mean I know it gets the +15 ongoing damage but it should have that on top of the higher base damage.By comparison the Godforged Colossus deals 4d12+15 with its basic attack! Its actually smaller than the Tarrasque, weaker, lower level and only Elite where the Tarrasque is a Solo monster. Yet its dealing on average 18 points more with a basic attack. Before you say, well what about the Tarrsque's +15 ongoing damage. Well the Godforged Colossus gets a secondary attack that deals 3d6 psychic damage and stuns you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 4276427, member: 326"] Hey there! :) Okay. After wrestling with the books last night it appears that instead of 13/16 + 1/2 level for the main stats that, for epic level monsters anyway, something akin to... 19 + 1/2 level = Best score 16 + 1/2 level = Second best score 13 + 1/2 level = Third best score ...works best. I think if you wanted to mix and match you could have 3 Ability Scores = 16 + 1/2 level (other three 10 + 1/2 level or less) or even... 6 Ability Scores = 13 + 1/2 level Example of first method: Orcus: L33 (Top 3 Ability Scores) 19 + 16 = 35 16 + 16 = 32 13 + 16 = 29 There are two (epic) monsters in the book that notably break this, the Tarrasque and the Godforged Colossus. Frankly, I am not happy with the Tarrasque. Even going by their own monster creation rules in the DMG it should be dealing 4d8+12 instead of 1d12+16. I mean I know it gets the +15 ongoing damage but it should have that on top of the higher base damage. By comparison the Godforged Colossus deals 4d12+15 with its basic attack! Its actually smaller than the Tarrasque, weaker, lower level and only Elite where the Tarrasque is a Solo monster. Yet its dealing on average 18 points more with a basic attack. Before you say, well what about the Tarrsque's +15 ongoing damage. Well the Godforged Colossus gets a secondary attack that deals 3d6 psychic damage and stuns you. [/QUOTE]

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