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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 4386271" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hey guys! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Sort of just wanted to talk about one way of using QP in 4E (work in progress naturally).</p><p></p><p>Anyway, at the moment I am thinking that the best way to represent it is to divide XP by 1000 to get QP.</p><p></p><p>So a 30th-level PC (1,000,000 XP) would have 1000 QP, and thus a potential:</p><p></p><p>1000 casual worshippers </p><p>100 devoted worshippers</p><p>10 lay clergy</p><p>1 cleric.</p><p></p><p>However, after 30th, instead of continuing the core XP progress (albeit in QP) instead I think doubling the amount of QP needed for each level makes the most sense.</p><p></p><p>This way a Level 40 Demigod would have 1,000,000 QP and a potential:</p><p></p><p>1,000,000 casual worshippers </p><p>100,000 devoted worshippers</p><p>10,000 lay clergy</p><p>1000 clerics.</p><p></p><p>Greater Gods have up to 1 Billion QP which sort of takes us up to a typical planetary limit.</p><p></p><p>So lets apply some history. The Roman Empire (at its height) probably reached around 64 Million people (yes I'm rounding things for brevity).</p><p></p><p>That means a total of 64 million QP to be spread throughout the Pantheon.</p><p></p><p>Lets take a defacto average spread of 50% for the Primary God(s), 25% Major, and 12.5% for Minor and 12.5% for Least.</p><p></p><p>32 Million QP is something like 45th-level. So Jupiter might be Level 45 at the height of the empire's power.</p><p></p><p>Below him, we probably have a bunch of maybe 16 major gods with a spread of 16 million QP between them. So they would average about 40th-level with a spread of about 38th-42nd.</p><p></p><p>Below that we would have the minor gods with something like 256 deities over a spread of 33rd-37th level.</p><p></p><p>Lastly we would have about 4000 heroes and quasi-deities in and around 28th-32nd-level.</p><p></p><p>If we contrast that with the Norse at the height of their power, and its difficult to get accurate figures but I would guesstimate a potential maximum of 1 million people circe 1000 AD. Then to get the same split we drop everything down by 6 levels.</p><p></p><p>Thus, Odin would have been 39th-level, the major gods would have been about 34th-level (36th-level for Thor lets say), the minor 'gods' would be about 29th-level.</p><p></p><p>From there you could, if you so wished, plot out modern religions such as Christianity (2.1 Billion), Hinduism (900 Million), Scientology (500,000), Jedi (500,000) and so forth. Although, as I mentioned before, far be it from me to go there.</p><p></p><p>While an interesting optional idea, I am not too sure of the merit of the idea with regards detailing the gods. Primarily due to the fact that most people will probably want to use them in their own campaign world rather than historical Earth at some pre-ordained time period. So it might be better to assume a roughly traditional view of the pantheons and give them all the same initial power.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 4386271, member: 326"] Hey guys! :) Sort of just wanted to talk about one way of using QP in 4E (work in progress naturally). Anyway, at the moment I am thinking that the best way to represent it is to divide XP by 1000 to get QP. So a 30th-level PC (1,000,000 XP) would have 1000 QP, and thus a potential: 1000 casual worshippers 100 devoted worshippers 10 lay clergy 1 cleric. However, after 30th, instead of continuing the core XP progress (albeit in QP) instead I think doubling the amount of QP needed for each level makes the most sense. This way a Level 40 Demigod would have 1,000,000 QP and a potential: 1,000,000 casual worshippers 100,000 devoted worshippers 10,000 lay clergy 1000 clerics. Greater Gods have up to 1 Billion QP which sort of takes us up to a typical planetary limit. So lets apply some history. The Roman Empire (at its height) probably reached around 64 Million people (yes I'm rounding things for brevity). That means a total of 64 million QP to be spread throughout the Pantheon. Lets take a defacto average spread of 50% for the Primary God(s), 25% Major, and 12.5% for Minor and 12.5% for Least. 32 Million QP is something like 45th-level. So Jupiter might be Level 45 at the height of the empire's power. Below him, we probably have a bunch of maybe 16 major gods with a spread of 16 million QP between them. So they would average about 40th-level with a spread of about 38th-42nd. Below that we would have the minor gods with something like 256 deities over a spread of 33rd-37th level. Lastly we would have about 4000 heroes and quasi-deities in and around 28th-32nd-level. If we contrast that with the Norse at the height of their power, and its difficult to get accurate figures but I would guesstimate a potential maximum of 1 million people circe 1000 AD. Then to get the same split we drop everything down by 6 levels. Thus, Odin would have been 39th-level, the major gods would have been about 34th-level (36th-level for Thor lets say), the minor 'gods' would be about 29th-level. From there you could, if you so wished, plot out modern religions such as Christianity (2.1 Billion), Hinduism (900 Million), Scientology (500,000), Jedi (500,000) and so forth. Although, as I mentioned before, far be it from me to go there. While an interesting optional idea, I am not too sure of the merit of the idea with regards detailing the gods. Primarily due to the fact that most people will probably want to use them in their own campaign world rather than historical Earth at some pre-ordained time period. So it might be better to assume a roughly traditional view of the pantheons and give them all the same initial power. [/QUOTE]
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