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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 5566666" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hello again! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Lets be honest, at the moment I'll be lucky to actually detail one, so until I get one done and dusted I won't be worrying about two or three.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Yes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you were to make the Epic Tier more epic you wouldn't need to upscale Orcus or Demogorgon.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They'll be on 10th Edition by then where you just plug your mind into the Holodeck. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I recall part of the War Portfolio has abilities for letting you auto hit, auto crit and so forth.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Thats the plan at the moment, although that may change. Personally I think at Level 30 you probably have too many feats.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>No. But you will be rewarded with Legendary Abilities for very high Ability Scores.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Expanded Current Classes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Portfolio Paths replaces Paragon Paths.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Each Portfolio wil have 4 Portfolio Paths, one for each play style (Leader, Striker, Controller, Defender). PCs will be able to choose abilities from any path - but obviously they'll suit certain classses more than others.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My goal is to make the Epic Tier EPIC and then take the Immortal Tier beyond epic.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>On the face of it yes. But what the designers didn't take account of was the synergy between epic level characters is totally ridiculous (I suggest getting Mike Shea's DMing for Epic Tier Games).</p><p></p><p>So if you just build a bunch of Level 30 characters at random, then the game should still be reasonably balanced. Any group that puts a modicum of thought into character builds will decimate opponents 5 or 6 Levels above them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Power System isn't the problem (though I imagine there are 1 or 2 broken powers that should be outlawed). The main problem is PC synergy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you are just happy to continue a campaign ad infinitum then by all means go for it.</p><p></p><p>However, in my opinion Epic (and by extension an Immortal Tier) fails when it does not offer anything significantly new. Not to mention it becomes redundant when simply retreading the same ground with higher math.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 5566666, member: 326"] Hello again! :) Lets be honest, at the moment I'll be lucky to actually detail one, so until I get one done and dusted I won't be worrying about two or three. Yes. If you were to make the Epic Tier more epic you wouldn't need to upscale Orcus or Demogorgon. They'll be on 10th Edition by then where you just plug your mind into the Holodeck. :D I recall part of the War Portfolio has abilities for letting you auto hit, auto crit and so forth. Thats the plan at the moment, although that may change. Personally I think at Level 30 you probably have too many feats. No. No. But you will be rewarded with Legendary Abilities for very high Ability Scores. Expanded Current Classes. Portfolio Paths replaces Paragon Paths. Each Portfolio wil have 4 Portfolio Paths, one for each play style (Leader, Striker, Controller, Defender). PCs will be able to choose abilities from any path - but obviously they'll suit certain classses more than others. My goal is to make the Epic Tier EPIC and then take the Immortal Tier beyond epic. On the face of it yes. But what the designers didn't take account of was the synergy between epic level characters is totally ridiculous (I suggest getting Mike Shea's DMing for Epic Tier Games). So if you just build a bunch of Level 30 characters at random, then the game should still be reasonably balanced. Any group that puts a modicum of thought into character builds will decimate opponents 5 or 6 Levels above them. The Power System isn't the problem (though I imagine there are 1 or 2 broken powers that should be outlawed). The main problem is PC synergy. If you are just happy to continue a campaign ad infinitum then by all means go for it. However, in my opinion Epic (and by extension an Immortal Tier) fails when it does not offer anything significantly new. Not to mention it becomes redundant when simply retreading the same ground with higher math. [/QUOTE]
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