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<blockquote data-quote="Rhuarc" data-source="post: 5567884" data-attributes="member: 15872"><p>And I have repeatedly said that I have more than enough in store to fill the next 16 levels easily. But alright, maybe lets agree that this new tier would be well-suited for me, but not so much for the other DMs who have nothing to populate the new tier with. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, I guess it becomes apparent to me that I didn't see the big picture until now. In the end I was not asking what you think about <i>my</i> campaign and the new tier in it, but what you say to the overall idea.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, you are right. Sorry that I felt offended at first by your statement, but I guess I should have made the distinction between the new tier in my campaign and with the resources I can bring to the table, and the other DMs who don't have anything comparable. </p><p>I can start arguing about that when I'm prepared to put out books like you to help other people introduce a Legendary Tier and give them the rules and creatures to populate it <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, it is. Just not for me. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, you'll forgive me if I'm not very excited about this just now <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Never mind. I would make things easier for me, not for anybody else.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>That's probably true.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Mh, I can see this raising a few eyebrows. Would be a big change, not really sure I'd like the idea much either at first. But interesting idea nonetheless.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>True, that was a big problem of the 3.5 system at the end. Need to be very careful about this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In such an instance, I'd rather use new powers to help out the stats which are too low. So for example I'd still use a level 34 monster but give it something like "Legendary Toughness" which triples its hit points to help it survive long enough. </p><p>This may be not "fair" for the current game and the rules the players expect, but with a new tier you have every freedom to create your own little helpers to add to the balance. So the d20 roll would retain its original value, but the monster is way tougher than before. Same can of course be done to damage and attacks, etc. </p><p>In the end, every DM has to experience first-hand what his group is able to do in combat and adjust the enemies accordingly. A reason why you really should make some playtesting for immortal enemies, UK.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rhuarc, post: 5567884, member: 15872"] And I have repeatedly said that I have more than enough in store to fill the next 16 levels easily. But alright, maybe lets agree that this new tier would be well-suited for me, but not so much for the other DMs who have nothing to populate the new tier with. Yeah, I guess it becomes apparent to me that I didn't see the big picture until now. In the end I was not asking what you think about <i>my</i> campaign and the new tier in it, but what you say to the overall idea. Yeah, you are right. Sorry that I felt offended at first by your statement, but I guess I should have made the distinction between the new tier in my campaign and with the resources I can bring to the table, and the other DMs who don't have anything comparable. I can start arguing about that when I'm prepared to put out books like you to help other people introduce a Legendary Tier and give them the rules and creatures to populate it :) Yes, it is. Just not for me. Well, you'll forgive me if I'm not very excited about this just now :) Never mind. I would make things easier for me, not for anybody else. That's probably true. Mh, I can see this raising a few eyebrows. Would be a big change, not really sure I'd like the idea much either at first. But interesting idea nonetheless. True, that was a big problem of the 3.5 system at the end. Need to be very careful about this. In such an instance, I'd rather use new powers to help out the stats which are too low. So for example I'd still use a level 34 monster but give it something like "Legendary Toughness" which triples its hit points to help it survive long enough. This may be not "fair" for the current game and the rules the players expect, but with a new tier you have every freedom to create your own little helpers to add to the balance. So the d20 roll would retain its original value, but the monster is way tougher than before. Same can of course be done to damage and attacks, etc. In the end, every DM has to experience first-hand what his group is able to do in combat and adjust the enemies accordingly. A reason why you really should make some playtesting for immortal enemies, UK. [/QUOTE]
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