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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9394703" data-attributes="member: 6801845">Not sure what to say when I read things like this. I have never had difficulty challenging PCs at any level. The last fight for my previous campaign I came close to perma-killing one PC, had others in single digits at times. They were all level 20 and because of other constraints on time (one player was going to be moving) I hadn't worn them down as much as I wanted. Game or two before, I almost killed 2 PCs in what i thought was going to be a moderately difficult fight.I have no magic formula, I don't fudge rolls one way or another, theoretically we're using basically the same rules, it wasn't a triple deadly fight according to my calculations. I do increase the number of legendary saves and actions to number if players in the party minus one. I also adjust monsters here and there.The good news is that they acknowledge the issue and are taking steps including more high level monsters. But challenging high level PCs has been possible in every edition of the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 9394703, member: 6801845"] Not sure what to say when I read things like this. I have never had difficulty challenging PCs at any level. The last fight for my previous campaign I came close to perma-killing one PC, had others in single digits at times. They were all level 20 and because of other constraints on time (one player was going to be moving) I hadn't worn them down as much as I wanted. Game or two before, I almost killed 2 PCs in what i thought was going to be a moderately difficult fight. I have no magic formula, I don't fudge rolls one way or another, theoretically we're using basically the same rules, it wasn't a triple deadly fight according to my calculations. I do increase the number of legendary saves and actions to number if players in the party minus one. I also adjust monsters here and there. The good news is that they acknowledge the issue and are taking steps including more high level monsters. But challenging high level PCs has been possible in every edition of the game. [/QUOTE]

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