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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9398885" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Honestly? In my experience it seems to be people who hate 5e, who stopped playing 5e, who have found games they like more than 5e... who keep coming to these threads to complain about how bad 5e is. The second most common group of people are those that hate 5e, who wish they could stop playing 5e, but everyone they play with likes 5e, so they feel forced to keep playing. And I guess I have a little sympathy for those in the second situation, it must suck to feel forced to play something you don't like because that's what everyone else likes, but it is hard to tug those situations out of the mire and see them as anything other than a rare if unfortunate circumstance.</blockquote>