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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8866981" data-attributes="member: 18">Not 14th, I mean, so it was irrelevant. We weren't usually in settings where you could prance around paying 14th-level Clerics (incredibly rare even in the FR) for anything. Even 9th level ones you'd be lucky if you could find them and they were willing. I think we managed to pull that off once. Either way you're looking at near impossibility unless there's a PC Cleric (which was where virtually every raise/res we saw came from, that and a few magic items/scrolls).More to the point, I don't think anyone who wasn't originally a 1E player or learned from 1E players even really understood that restriction. It's completely unstated and barely even implied (thanks to "other creatures") in 2E material, even Complete Elves (where you'd expect some coverage). I didn't even see a copy of Deities and Demigods until 1993 (and I only glanced through it then), which is apparently where it was explained.</blockquote>