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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 8867887" data-attributes="member: 7635">It was less of a factor in 2e also because 2e raised the level limits.A 1e dwarf was capped at 9th level, and that's if they had a 18 strength. In 2e, it was 15th level, with the optional rule to gain up to +3 additional levels for a high prime requisite (18th for our 18 strength dwarf).Just a quick comparison, assuming 18 prime requisite. 1e vs 2e.Dwarf fighter 9 vs 15Elf fighter 7 vs 12Halfling fighter 6 vs 9Elf wizard 11 vs 15Gnome wizard 7 vs 15Dwarf cleric 8* vs 10Half-Elf cleric 5 vs 14Half-elf ranger 8 vs 16Now there are some downgrades, to be fair...Halfling thief Unlimited vs 15Half-elf druid unlimited vs 9And with the optional rule, you can add up to +3 more to the 2e side. For most races, level limits were a formality I'm 2e. * Dwarf cleric, or any cleric but a human or half-human was not allowed in 1e officially until Unearthed Arcana.</blockquote>