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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oni" data-source="post: 5797411" data-attributes="member: 380">While there are some things I genuinely like about 4E, there are a lot more things about it that I grew to loath over my time playing it.  I think there is a lot to learn from the system, but I think a lot of lessons come from flaws, or great ideas that weren't quite executed right.   In short, there are some bits that deserve serious consideration for inclusion in the next edition, some bits that the concept is fantastic but need a fair bit of overhaul, and some bits that are just terrible (IMHO blah blah blah).  Ultimately though, if I wanted to play 4e, I'd just play 4e.  I'm glad they are doing something new, if I wanted to play a version of the game that already exist that's passing simple in this day and age.  A lot of my excitement stems from the fact that it is new and it is different.</blockquote>