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<blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 8553821" data-attributes="member: 19857">Huh.&nbsp; Interesting thread.&nbsp; I missed it the first time around (I wasn't playing 5e at the time at all regularly, so that might be why).5e is what it is. It's not a game that I'd throw people who are interested in tactical battles at - there are other games that do that better. Even from a narrative perspective the combat part of the game relies a lot on the quickness of players imaginations to describe what's going on without giving much in the way of prompts for what's happening. Tired or distracted players leads to boring combats ime, while in 3e or 4e IME combat would be a time when folks would wake up because a different part of their brain was engaging.Interestingly IMO 5e is a version of D&amp;D where I think combat is more boring if you use miniatures than if you don't.&nbsp; I know I'm in the minority on that one because many in my own gaming groups disagree, but I think when you have minis out on the table with 5e it just kind of lays bare that the attacks are basically all fairly similar, and you end up somewhat constrained in describing moves to make them sound cooler by the minis on the table than when it's all in your head or on a whiteboard imo.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jer, post: 8553821, member: 19857"] Huh. Interesting thread. I missed it the first time around (I wasn't playing 5e at the time at all regularly, so that might be why). 5e is what it is. It's not a game that I'd throw people who are interested in tactical battles at - there are other games that do that better. Even from a narrative perspective the combat part of the game relies a lot on the quickness of players imaginations to describe what's going on without giving much in the way of prompts for what's happening. Tired or distracted players leads to boring combats ime, while in 3e or 4e IME combat would be a time when folks would wake up because a different part of their brain was engaging. Interestingly IMO 5e is a version of D&D where I think combat is more boring if you use miniatures than if you don't. I know I'm in the minority on that one because many in my own gaming groups disagree, but I think when you have minis out on the table with 5e it just kind of lays bare that the attacks are basically all fairly similar, and you end up somewhat constrained in describing moves to make them sound cooler by the minis on the table than when it's all in your head or on a whiteboard imo. [/QUOTE]

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