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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8464058" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Checking the latest <a href="https://www.enworld.org/attachments/pinekindredjarl2-png.147046/" target="_blank"><strong>Pine Kindred Jarl</strong></a>.</p><p></p><p>One reason I liked making them 8th-level casters is a 6th level druid has a +3 Proficiency Bonus like a <a href="https://www.5esrd.com/gamemastering/monsters-foes/" target="_blank"><strong>Monster</strong></a> with <strong>Challenge</strong> 5 and I liked the idea of spacing the Kindred / Thane / Jarl a couple of Challenges apart.</p><p></p><p>I have no great objection to keeping them 6th-level spellcasters, but if we do that I feel the Jarl ought to be <strong>Challenge</strong> 4 rather than my text draft's current CR 5 PB +3.</p><p></p><p>That'd require some additional tweaking to the <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/converting-monsters-from-white-dwarf-magazine.684031/post-8463658" target="_blank"><strong>Pine Kindred Jarl Text Version</strong></a>, mainly due to the lower Proficiency Bonus:</p><p></p><p><strong>Hit Points</strong> 67 (9d8 + 27)</p><p>Increased due to higher Con. I was thinking of adding a couple more since 67 hp felt a trifle feeble for CR 5. However, it'is more acceptable for CR 4, especially for a spellcaster.</p><p></p><p><strong>Saving Throws</strong> Dex +5, Int +3, Wis +5</p><p><strong>Skills</strong> Arcana +3, Nature +5, Perception +5, Religion +5, Stealth +5</p><p><strong>Senses</strong> Darkvision 60 ft., Passive Perception 15</p><p><strong>Challenge</strong> 4 (1,100) <strong>Proficiency Bonus</strong> +2</p><p></p><p><strong><em>Spellcasting</em></strong>. The pine kindred jarl is a 6th-level spellcaster that used Wisdom as its spellcasting ability (spell save DC 13; +5 to hit with spell attacks). The thane has the following spells prepared from the druid's spell list. [maybe increase to 8th-level spellcaster?]</p><p></p><p><strong>Cantrips (at will)</strong>: <em>druidcraft, second cantrip, third cantrip</em></p><p><strong>1st level (4 slots)</strong>: [spells to be decided]</p><p><strong>2nd level (3 slots)</strong>: [spells to be decided]</p><p><strong>3rd level (3 slots)</strong>: [spells to be decided]</p><p></p><p>Some pine kindred know spells from outside the druid's spell list (see <em><strong>Dark Druidic Mysteries</strong></em>).</p><p></p><p>…Oh, and its Attack "to hit" values drop by one since its Proficiency Bonus is lower:</p><p></p><p><strong><em>Longsword</em></strong>. <em>Melee Weapon Attack:</em> +5 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. <em>Hit:</em> 6 (1d8 + 2) slashing damage, or 7 (1d10 + 2) slashing damage if used with two hands.</p><p></p><p><strong><em>Dart</em></strong>. <em>Ranged Weapon Attack:</em> +5 to hit, range 20/60 ft., one target. <em>Hit:</em> 4 (1d4 + 2) piercing damage.</p><p></p><p><strong>Shrieking Wail</strong> should be DC 13 now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8464058, member: 57383"] Checking the latest [URL='https://www.enworld.org/attachments/pinekindredjarl2-png.147046/'][B]Pine Kindred Jarl[/B][/URL]. One reason I liked making them 8th-level casters is a 6th level druid has a +3 Proficiency Bonus like a [URL='https://www.5esrd.com/gamemastering/monsters-foes/'][B]Monster[/B][/URL] with [B]Challenge[/B] 5 and I liked the idea of spacing the Kindred / Thane / Jarl a couple of Challenges apart. I have no great objection to keeping them 6th-level spellcasters, but if we do that I feel the Jarl ought to be [B]Challenge[/B] 4 rather than my text draft's current CR 5 PB +3. That'd require some additional tweaking to the [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/converting-monsters-from-white-dwarf-magazine.684031/post-8463658'][B]Pine Kindred Jarl Text Version[/B][/URL], mainly due to the lower Proficiency Bonus: [B]Hit Points[/B] 67 (9d8 + 27) Increased due to higher Con. I was thinking of adding a couple more since 67 hp felt a trifle feeble for CR 5. However, it'is more acceptable for CR 4, especially for a spellcaster. [B]Saving Throws[/B] Dex +5, Int +3, Wis +5 [B]Skills[/B] Arcana +3, Nature +5, Perception +5, Religion +5, Stealth +5 [B]Senses[/B] Darkvision 60 ft., Passive Perception 15 [B]Challenge[/B] 4 (1,100) [B]Proficiency Bonus[/B] +2 [B][I]Spellcasting[/I][/B]. The pine kindred jarl is a 6th-level spellcaster that used Wisdom as its spellcasting ability (spell save DC 13; +5 to hit with spell attacks). The thane has the following spells prepared from the druid's spell list. [maybe increase to 8th-level spellcaster?] [B]Cantrips (at will)[/B]: [I]druidcraft, second cantrip, third cantrip[/I] [B]1st level (4 slots)[/B]: [spells to be decided] [B]2nd level (3 slots)[/B]: [spells to be decided] [B]3rd level (3 slots)[/B]: [spells to be decided] Some pine kindred know spells from outside the druid's spell list (see [I][B]Dark Druidic Mysteries[/B][/I]). …Oh, and its Attack "to hit" values drop by one since its Proficiency Bonus is lower: [B][I]Longsword[/I][/B]. [I]Melee Weapon Attack:[/I] +5 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. [I]Hit:[/I] 6 (1d8 + 2) slashing damage, or 7 (1d10 + 2) slashing damage if used with two hands. [B][I]Dart[/I][/B]. [I]Ranged Weapon Attack:[/I] +5 to hit, range 20/60 ft., one target. [I]Hit:[/I] 4 (1d4 + 2) piercing damage. [B]Shrieking Wail[/B] should be DC 13 now. [/QUOTE]
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