Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8481990" data-attributes="member: 57383">Yes, I was basically throwing out ideas to see what would stick. I won't cry a river if you decide against Weapon Resistance, I basically was trying to come up with ways to make them hard to hit without giving them the nigh-impossible-to-touch AC of the original.But it does seem more 5E-ish to make these critters a bit more, well, survivable than the original Dancers.Okay's let's see what we've got:<img src="https://www.enworld.org/attachments/shadowdancer2-png.148185/" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />So you didn't care for "nonmagical attacks that aren't adamantine" like a Gargoyle?The rest of it looks pretty sound.Although STR 13 does feel a tad low for a Large monster, I wouldn't mind tweaking that up a notch or two. Still, they are "slim" in the original text so maybe they're just extremely scrawny?Guess we could mix up the mental stats a bit so they aren't three 10s in a row. There's no information on how bright they are in the original White Dwarf stats.Let's see, a Vrock has INT 8 (–1), WIS 13 (+1), CHA 8 (–1).a Gargoyle has INT 6 (–2), WIS 11 (+0), CHA 7 (–2).However, there's two uses of "elegant" in their WD description, so I'm thinking perhaps they are a bit above-average in the Charisma department?How about INT 8 (–1), WIS 13 (+1), CHA 13 (+1)?By the way, if you didn't already know, these creatures are clearly inspired by Robert E Howard's Conan story Shadows in the Moonlight (now Public Domain, so available on <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/42188/42188-h/42188-h.htm" target="_blank">Project Gutenberg</a> in it's <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/36031" target="_blank">Howard, Robert E.</a> collection).Those statues were not demons, but men (black-skinned hawk-faced warriors of a now forgotten race) cursed to become iron statues who came alive to attack intruders when the moon's light touched them. A survivor of the attack described them as "devils", "flame-eyed shadows, with tearing fangs and sharp talons", but the story does not say much more, since neither of the story's two viewpoint characters (Conan & Olivia) was present when the statues animated. The fight was offscreen when the "shadows" fell upon a crew of pirates camping in their ancient hall. Most of the description of them is actually from a dream Olivia had while sleeping in the hall.There might also be a similarity to the inhuman black-skinned beings in The Pool of the Black One, which appears to still be in copyright in some territories. But it's out of copyright in Australia, which I believe is your neck of the woods, so you can read it on Gutenberg.net.au.It seems more prudent to leave their demonic patron(s) unidentified.</blockquote>

Verification