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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8512305" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>I'm wondering whether we've given the Gu'en-deeko too high a CON.</p><p></p><p>The original monster had 5D8 Hit Dice, so it didn't have any adds to that.</p><p></p><p>An AD&D Carnivorous Ape also has 5d8 Hit Dice. The closest official 5E equivalent to that is the <strong><a href="https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/animal-ape/" target="_blank">Ape</a></strong>, which has STR 16 (+3), DEX 14 (+2), CON 14 (+2). That's a Medium sized beastie like the Gu'en.</p><p></p><p>The Tome of Horrors non-official <strong><a href="https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/ape-dire/" target="_blank">Dire Ape</a></strong> is a 5E interpretation of the Carnivorous Ape but looks more powerful than the AD&D and 3E versions, being more like the giant Gray Ape in that <em>Iron Shadows</em> Conan tale.</p><p></p><p>So I'm wondering about giving our boy similar Dexterity and Constitution to a 5E Ape, let's say DEX 14, CON 15?</p><p></p><p>If we lower the CON I'd increase the number of Hit Dice to compensate. Maybe to 45 (7d8 + 14) if we want to keep the HP the same? If we aim to increase the HP, we could go for 52 (8d8 + 16) or even 65 (10d8+20).</p><p></p><p>Also, a Gu'en-deeko should probable use <em><strong><em>Fist</em></strong></em> like an Ape rather than <strong><em>Claw</em></strong> like a Bear. There's nary a mention of claws in the monster's description, which says it attacks with "powerful hands". The damage of a pair of 1d6+4 fists/claws is also a bit low for Challenge 3. Maybe increase that to 1d8+4 or 1d8+6?</p><p></p><p>I'm also tempted to give it a weak ranged weapon such as a Nandie-Ape's rock throwing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8512305, member: 57383"] I'm wondering whether we've given the Gu'en-deeko too high a CON. The original monster had 5D8 Hit Dice, so it didn't have any adds to that. An AD&D Carnivorous Ape also has 5d8 Hit Dice. The closest official 5E equivalent to that is the [B][URL='https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/animal-ape/']Ape[/URL][/B], which has STR 16 (+3), DEX 14 (+2), CON 14 (+2). That's a Medium sized beastie like the Gu'en. The Tome of Horrors non-official [B][URL='https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/ape-dire/']Dire Ape[/URL][/B] is a 5E interpretation of the Carnivorous Ape but looks more powerful than the AD&D and 3E versions, being more like the giant Gray Ape in that [I]Iron Shadows[/I] Conan tale. So I'm wondering about giving our boy similar Dexterity and Constitution to a 5E Ape, let's say DEX 14, CON 15? If we lower the CON I'd increase the number of Hit Dice to compensate. Maybe to 45 (7d8 + 14) if we want to keep the HP the same? If we aim to increase the HP, we could go for 52 (8d8 + 16) or even 65 (10d8+20). Also, a Gu'en-deeko should probable use [I][B][I]Fist[/I][/B][/I] like an Ape rather than [B][I]Claw[/I][/B] like a Bear. There's nary a mention of claws in the monster's description, which says it attacks with "powerful hands". The damage of a pair of 1d6+4 fists/claws is also a bit low for Challenge 3. Maybe increase that to 1d8+4 or 1d8+6? I'm also tempted to give it a weak ranged weapon such as a Nandie-Ape's rock throwing. [/QUOTE]
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