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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8704551" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>So how long does it take to actually eat the brain?</p><p></p><p>Does the gu'en-deeko need an uninterrupted hour to eat a brain and absorb the powers, or can it scarf it down in a round and acquires the powers an hour later?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, that's what I was thinking about, plus a CR equivalent for non-classed characters.</p><p></p><p>It might be easier to have the cut-off based on Hit Dice rather than class levels, as NPCs don't necessarily match to PC class levels very well.</p><p></p><p>An NPC mage, for example, is basically a 9th-level wizard spellcaster and Challenge 6, while a Bandit Captain has 10 Hit Dice but is only Challenge 2 and definitely falls way short of a classed fighter with similar Hit Points.</p><p></p><p>However, a 9th-level Wizard has +4 Proficiency Bonus and loads of class features, while the Mage only has a +3 Proficiency Bonus and Spellcasting.</p><p></p><p>A 10th-level fighter has a decent number of bonus features and a +4 Proficiency Bonus, while a mere Bandit Captain only has +2 Proficiency, Multiattack and Parry.</p><p></p><p>Maybe HD 1 to 3 or Challenge Rating up to 1 for the low-ranked brains, then HD 4+ or Challenge Rating 2+ for the high-ranked brain?</p><p></p><p>Oh, and die we discuss Ability Score Improvements?</p><p></p><p>One reason I put the cutoff at the 3rd class level is that the first Ability Score Improvement occurs at 4th level, so there's no way the gu'en-deeko can have Ability Improvements from multiple brains if it only has a single 4th+ level set of class features.</p><p></p><p>Also, must the gu'en-deeko have to use the same Ability Score Improvements as the brain it's eaten, even if those are suboptimal, or can it choose its own? A gu'en-deeko starts out with STR 18, so if it got +4 STR from two fighter class Ability Score Improvements it only benefits from +2 STR of them as it's hit the "you can't increase an ability score above 20 using this feature" cap.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, if we are using the "Charisma becomes that of the highest CHA brain donor" rule, then Ability Score Improvements to CHA are presumably worthless and should go somewhere else.</p><p></p><p>Or maybe not give it Ability Score Improvements at all? Although I can would think gu'en-deeko that have gained high Challenge Ratings due to eating a lot of brains would probably have higher Ability Scores than a beginning 'deeko.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8704551, member: 57383"] So how long does it take to actually eat the brain? Does the gu'en-deeko need an uninterrupted hour to eat a brain and absorb the powers, or can it scarf it down in a round and acquires the powers an hour later? Yes, that's what I was thinking about, plus a CR equivalent for non-classed characters. It might be easier to have the cut-off based on Hit Dice rather than class levels, as NPCs don't necessarily match to PC class levels very well. An NPC mage, for example, is basically a 9th-level wizard spellcaster and Challenge 6, while a Bandit Captain has 10 Hit Dice but is only Challenge 2 and definitely falls way short of a classed fighter with similar Hit Points. However, a 9th-level Wizard has +4 Proficiency Bonus and loads of class features, while the Mage only has a +3 Proficiency Bonus and Spellcasting. A 10th-level fighter has a decent number of bonus features and a +4 Proficiency Bonus, while a mere Bandit Captain only has +2 Proficiency, Multiattack and Parry. Maybe HD 1 to 3 or Challenge Rating up to 1 for the low-ranked brains, then HD 4+ or Challenge Rating 2+ for the high-ranked brain? Oh, and die we discuss Ability Score Improvements? One reason I put the cutoff at the 3rd class level is that the first Ability Score Improvement occurs at 4th level, so there's no way the gu'en-deeko can have Ability Improvements from multiple brains if it only has a single 4th+ level set of class features. Also, must the gu'en-deeko have to use the same Ability Score Improvements as the brain it's eaten, even if those are suboptimal, or can it choose its own? A gu'en-deeko starts out with STR 18, so if it got +4 STR from two fighter class Ability Score Improvements it only benefits from +2 STR of them as it's hit the "you can't increase an ability score above 20 using this feature" cap. Furthermore, if we are using the "Charisma becomes that of the highest CHA brain donor" rule, then Ability Score Improvements to CHA are presumably worthless and should go somewhere else. Or maybe not give it Ability Score Improvements at all? Although I can would think gu'en-deeko that have gained high Challenge Ratings due to eating a lot of brains would probably have higher Ability Scores than a beginning 'deeko. [/QUOTE]
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