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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ilgatto" data-source="post: 8870122" data-attributes="member: 86051">Heh. Great minds and all that.I also checked on the alignments of Tizun Thane (TT) creatures to see whether that could lead to some clue as to the shadow dancers' (and Tizun Thane's) alignment, most notably on Diker's (DT), Sega's (ST), and Thraaak's. Didn't get me anywhere and flaming nuisance that gu'en-deekos don't get the alignments of the brains they eat.I pondered giving TT an alignment different from DT and ST because "plotting to overthrow" could suggest such, but that left LE or NE so that was no good. I wonder whether Mr Fiore had an alignment for TT and SDs in his original concept, although that may well have been "Chaotic" because of OD&D notions.When I (very recently) found out about Howard's The Mirrors of Tuzun Thune (<a href="https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?68504" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="https://darkworldsquarterly.gwthomas.org/the-many-mirrors-of-tuzun-thune/" target="_blank">here</a>) things started to look up (because Cthulhu) but that, too, didn't really get me anywhere, because "alien evil" sort of made me think of Moorcock ("chaotic") instead of D&D.In the end, I decided to go for (uniquely) "ALIGNMENT: Evil (See below)" and then added a note along the lines of "alignment may depend on that of the dark lord SDs serve" and hinted at "evil, alien dimensions", which, admittedly isn't ideal for many reasons. A bit like your suggestion of "any evil".Anyway.CE and "demonic" does seem to suit the SDs better than LE and "diabolic" because murder and blood and, dare I say it, Vance's demodands.Now that we're talking shadow dancers: I noticed you made them immune to "spells", which I also did.However, on reviewing my conversion after reading much of his thread, I noticed that the original (WD18) actually says this:[ATTACH=full]270603[/ATTACH]From White Dwarf 18 (GW, 1980) (p. 18)Note the exact wording where their immunity is concerned - and the emphasis on "attacks"!Could this be read as that shadow dancers are immune to magical attacks as opposed to spells, meaning that Magic Missile, Fireball, and the bite of Mordenkainen's Faithful Hound wouldn't affect them but that, say, Reverse Gravity or Repulsion (Stone Shape, even?) would?Many, many, many cans of worms?</blockquote>

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